This also applies exactly to me especially on the issue of defensive cds that you consider sufficient unlike hundreds of Hunters who think differently from you and, I repeat, they are NOT only in this European forum but above all in the American one.
In reality, I’ve always done it, but when I realize that my interlocutor doesn’t think like me and has ideas that he flaunts and that don’t give any possibility for discussion, frankly, in the long run, I get very bored if you allow me. .
You are wrong, at most a problem of the class and not of the player.
Because I have all the will to do 22+ but I’m not invited.
According to your speech, I have to deal with it waiting, in a miracle, in several months where, perhaps, the hunter will become more competitive?
But do you hear the speeches you make?
And in the meantime what do I do, can’t I go up to Rio and have to stop playing?
Do we realize that this has become a game of class and not of knowing how to play?
Not that I’m strong as a player but I would like to learn to improve.
But if they prevent me from being able to do it, what’s the point?
Developers also need to take user feedbackin consideration rather than give a damn.
Do you accept this condition?
You are one of the very few, if not the only one, who thinks this way
Just because many think it, doesn’t make it true. Many also think we are completely fine, they just don’t feel the need to come shout it on the forums.
I tried to have a discussion on frenzy value and you refused to engage…
You are misunderstanding. I say player issue because it’s a player base issue, people will only invite meta specs. I’m not saying it’s the person being declineds fault (Although I bet if the tables were turned, you’d do the EXACT same thing and only invite perceived best specs).
Again - If hunter suddenly because extremely strong tomorrow, we would still be in the exact same issue as a playerbase. The only difference would be instead of hunters complaining about getting no invites, it would be ret/fury/devoker or whatever is pushed out of groups by hunters.
M+ has a massive issue of player going for the so called best specs and it has just been worse and worse over time.
In legion it was ok in BFA it was still ok in Shadowlands it really started to be an actual problem even for low keys and in dragonflight even though the meta is more up in the air then ever people seems to be very meta focused.
I am really glad Hunter has BL though it is kinda insane to think about people in dragonflight still do not know that Hunter has BL in all the specs even though we hunters got it before Mages.
It is weird to me how the king of buffs has fallen so hard we had every single class buff at some point we could just have, we had CR we had BL.
And now we do only have BL left and hunter really need some damage buffs that matter if we are not going to have some kind of raid buff we need to actually do good damage to counter act this.
But who thinks that Hunters are completely fine, you and then?
There are many other people who complain but don’t come to post in this forum or in the American one, so what are we talking about, hot air like you’re always used to produce?
I didn’t refuse to engage the discussion on frenzy stacks but you understand that when a speech becomes saturated and uninteresting, nobody cares and you risk only arguing and losing sight of everything else.
Tomorrow?
Like many other people, I’m not asking that the Hunter become a Meta class, but simply that it be reworked or given the right attention by the developers since it literally leaves something to be desired. In Shadowland it was acceptable, nothing in particular but valid.
It’s since the early expansion of DF that it has become painful and is avoided like the plague in Pug in slightly higher keys.
I’ve expressed this concept 100 times and I think this will be the umpteenth time I waste time with you.
You guys are absolutely funny, first off biggest problem of hunter in general THEY DONT BRING ANY UTILITY TO THE GROUP - they also dont bring top notch dps, bm hunter are not bad in dps but dont bring anything else, their defensives well you can play around it tbh its not good also not bad.
Doing the right math, the Hunter bm makes a mediocre dps and doesn’t stand out
Let’s say that we are placed as were the Priest Shadow in SL more or less
Because in SL it was the strongest of the three Hunter specs.
I think that in Df the Meta classes have a proponderant weight and are chosen more while the Hunter, which was competitive in Sl, is not at all now.
But rather than pointing out the Frenzys stack again(I’ll let you think what you want), do you think it is normal that the developers perculate the Hunter Bm with a stupid Buff of 10% of the Kc?
They are joking, aren’t they?
A spell that does absolutely no damage on the Bm and without crit it does about 18k and thanks to the “generous” buff it will do like 22k.
Nice way to be teased…
However to the Hunter MM will buffed both Aimed Shot and Rapid Fire by 10%.
Still a demonstration of the fact that they don’t give a damn about BM spec .
I play this Hunter for 2 weeks now and i already have 5 20+ M+ kills.
It’s the fact that there are too many dps not the class.
If you have good logs, good rio gems enchants on your gear you going to get invited.
Also as Hunter i don’t have any problem to survive just dodge things better.
Well SV is currently the strongest of the 3 specs right now and it’s not really played, so it’s not the reason in itself.
Bro what are you talking about. Kill command is literally the most important and highest damage ability BM has. Of course that is going to be the source of buffs, especially when ST damage is the issue and AoE is fine.
You need to get out of the victim mentality. Blizzard doesn’t love nor hate specs. Blizzard isn’t a singular person, it’s a company. There are not thousands of people sat there all getting angry everytime somebody says the spec BM and they just all make sure it’s really bad. BM was the best ST spec in the game literally a few months ago. Sometimes it will be good, sometimes it will be bad, that’s how most specs in the game are.
My main is a paladin, and it isn’t uncommon for it to be just the tank and me alive at the end of a messy boss fight. I might be out of defensives, but as long as mechanics haven’t forced me so far away that I can’t hit anything to generate holy power, I always have something to help myself stay alive.
On the hunter, unless someone else misuses their CDs, I’m usually first to say, “Sorry, I’ve got nothing.” And that’s playing BM with the spirit beast out. If I’m making the group, I always make sure I invite a lock because that one cookie per fight is sometimes enough to keep me alive. Not always, though.
Shorter CDs on hunter defensives and self-heal would be a start.
The other thing I’d like to see (and I’m speaking as BM because I haven’t played the other specs in DF) is a buff to versatility’s damage increase to bring it up to a level where it’s competitive with the other 3 secondaries. Running low versa because it doesn’t compete in damage hurts when there’s AOE damage going out, and hoping RNG will be kind and give items with avoidance on isn’t a good answer.
And what would be the reason in your opinion?
Also in Sl it was a class played little compared to MM and BM
It was a typo because I wanted to write KS instead of KC.
But you should know it from the buff that it was coming and it was enough to write a sentence like “you definitely wanted to write KS” rather than uselessly explaining the damage of the Kc…
I limit myself to explaining the facts and the conditions in which the Hunter is found in the last 8 months.
They are objective and non-subjective conditions shared by a large number of people who play this class and are disappointed by the type of treatment that the developers have reserved for them.
So all the people who have opened the numerous threads, both in this European forum and especially in the American one, do you think they have a victim mentality?
I think, on the other hand, that you should be less fanatic and you shouldn’t arrogate yourself the right to know everything because you’ve said a lot of nonsense since I’ve known you in this forum
Sorry, you used energy to make this reasoning but frankly I don’t know what kind of use it can have or what you want to demonstrate.
Simply useless.
You forget that in Aoe he was in worse shape than now and had the only advantage of the damage in St, good for the Raid but not very significant in M+ especially in the weeks of Forty.
Now it’s mediocre at everything in dps.
Yes of course … as happens with the Meta classes …
I have the feeling that you often make arguments that often have no external confirmation, following a line of thought that is opposite to common thought.
It is a fact that the situation of Hunter’s defensive CDs are not up to par, inefficient and with an absurd recovery times.
It may be enough for someone, perhaps because they have a really good premade behind them with a curator whose playing ability goes beyond the average, or other people who limit themselves to making low M+, or who play occasionally are not too affected by this problem
Guess i’m getting blamed for your typos now too. Maybe it was the blizzard boogyman out to get you.
It’s pretty obvious that this buff wasn’t targetted at BM, MM received a killshot buff and because it shares the same SpellID with BM, it effected BM too.
I don’t think you know what objective and subjective means.
The only person who has said their opinion is ‘facts and objective’ here is you. How am I the arrogant one?
