Which event is more popular? World First Raiding, or MDI? I think the first brings attention of way more players.
Well so far we just have the fact its one of the few things blizzard gave a 100% Solid response on… Preach Asked Ion is it coming back and Ion litterally immediately came back with “Maybe in tier 2”.
the fact they have a Set time to respond on that and even justified why its not coming in tier 1. means this is a Heavy conversation within blizzard and its a strong possibility its coming back.
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debateable. I think you’d find many hundreds of thousands more players watch people run m+ over people raiding.
I have no clue. But what i know is that that is done after 2 weeks of the start of the tier. And usually we play this game for longer than 2 weeks in a new patch (or 4 when the raid opens in the 2nd week).
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games Benefit from having Multiple sources of content for Different people to enjoy in different ways.
Blizzard Want raiding to be more appealing, thats the end. i wont beleive any Crap they give on this matter realistically, they just dont want to come out and Outright Say it.
its happened to the PvP Community, its now happening to the M+ Community. they’ve done nothing since the introduction of alternative modes Ensured the Enforcement for raiding to still be the Ladder to climb.
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nah mythic plus are dead after this change.
why do hard mythic + when you can do easy hc raids .
devs are as always catering this game only to raiders.
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How often MDI is and how long this event lasts then? more than 2 weeks and more often than raid tiers then?
I’m not against dungeons, i love them too, maybe not strictly timed ones, but i like to do them, i just thought raid was always biggest achievment to people, not some e-sport like 30minute sessions 
why is it such a bad thing… to simply say…
Even if MDI only brings Half the qauntity of Watchers to Worlds first. why is it dconsidering a bad thing?
its still more eyes on the WoW Esports scene o.o, unless ur accusation is People refuse to watch the Worlds first raiding because of MDI?
Heck even if Torghast solo running became a Watched Sport, why would it be a Bad impact on WoW. the More eyes on WoW for More Content is a good thing.
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I am myself not even that interested in MDI. It is a misconception MDI is pushing keys. It is doing low keys as fast as they can. At least, low for these players 
With all the loot and corruption choosable. So they dont have to gear. They can also choose their race for every dungeon. It is not comparable with live-keys.
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Why are you using word “Bad” ? did i say something is bad or something is better over something? i was just asking why so many people hate raids while loving m+ because i always though Guild Raid is what are people playing for and it surprises me so many of players don’t give a damn about any raiding content.
Doesnt matter. MDI is an official Blizzard tournament. The world first race is not.
Blizzard obviously value MDI over WF race otherwise they’d have officially endorsed or run the world first race themselves. MDI pulls in more viewers for a longer time (you have multiple mini tournaments for each area then a world wide finals which cumulatively will be watched by way more than the WF race).
no but ur bringing up Comparisons… as if the MDI and Worlds first are competing in viewers… and not a combined viewership of World of Warcraft collectively.
I think e-sport is killing essentials of World of Warcraft, i don’t mind group content which is timed and has increasing difficulty to shine on rankings, but it shouldn’t be second, or main way of gearing in modern WoW. E-sport is kicking Raids butt and making them second hand content, while it should be opposite, all main plot and stories of expansions are about raids, not dungeons. People did flip everything upside down. It’s not healthy to the game, attitude of players toward others proves it, everything must be perfect, perfect class, perfect spec to be taken, because this is ranked sht and we must do like those guys on tournament.
The answer to your question is Simple
PuGGing todays HC Raids proves difficult. in a unorganised Raid with Varying skill curves getting stuck on bosses is Quite normal and alot of people just immediate Quit upon deaths which cycles through unknowledgable players making the same Mistakes. for example Nzoth currently is horrible to pug through.
Guild raiding requires Strict format of time per week which ALOT of jobs simply dont give the player the option if u cant garuntee you can be online every week on 2 specific days continously you cant attend guild raiding. Guild raiding requires HIGH attendence and you cant just jump in and out of a raid team on a weekly bases due to ur RL.
we dont hate it. or atleast alot of us dont… we just dont have the Capability to do it due to Raid schedules and more just not lining up with our RL circumstances.
i can work anywhere between 6am and 10pm.
Which means, i cant garuntee raiding early evenings because i could be working. and i cant garuntee raiding late evenings because i could have to be up at 6am… we can then go to days off, which arent identical every week aswell.
which means i could at best. raid on a Tuesday. which means i’d need a progressing Raid team who only raid once a week on a Tuesday. and due to comittments with my GF would have to be evenings.
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This answer satisfies me, i always think raids are most epic content, and yeah, i’m one of those who don’t have regular working days so i have bad luck and can never get free time on raiding day 
Depending on how atricious it is i may consider PUG Raiding in SL, i quit BFA til 8.3 and Overall, pugging nzoth just feels like a Headache. I suspose I could pug the other 11 bosses weekly… but dunno aiming to simply Not actually complete the raid. doesnt feel satisifying in the slightest lol
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I’ll have to disappoint you, with a 22 timed as your highest, you’re nowhere near the high end where you need BiS. I mean, you’re about 200 RIO above me - you have a team, I don’t. You’ll be fine even with the ilevel nerf.
Don’t look at the current situation, because SL is a wildly different territory. The weekly chest in BfA is most of the time useless. In SL, with DRs on secondary stats, and multiple non-duplicate options in the Vault, it will be a whole lot more useful, especially during initial gearing where higher ilevel will almost always be better.
And again, for the content we do now, we do not need BiS items. We’ll be fine in SL too, with the added bonus of the vault actually being useful more often than not. A welcome change after BfA.
Because nerfing the ilevel is easier, and doesn’t really make a difference for most people.
It doesn’t affect the majority of M+ runners. If you geared purely from M+, you will still be able to do that in SL, and it will be easier. If you raided anyway, then there’s no difference either.
The vast majority of M+ runners don’t need BiS gear to do the content they care about. High-end pushers do, and they already raid. Everyone else who didn’t raid before, won’t have to, and will still be able to do the content they enjoy, at the level they already did. Perhaps even higher, with the Vault being more useful than not.
In the grand scheme of things, the nerfs don’t make a whole lot of difference, and the vault offsets it nicely.
Read back above: if you get 4 items from the vault, you’re already above heroic raid ilevels on average. Chances are, at the beginning of SL, the first few items from the vault will be upgrades no matter what.
The ilevel difference between someone who does m+ and heroic raids will not be much. The real power of heroic raids will come from items not available in m+ (weapons, trinkets) - but that’s been the case in BfA too, so no real change there either.
…assuming that tier sets will be raid bound. There’s plenty of ways to make it possible to obtain tier sets from either raids or m+. Like, if both drop a currency you can turn in to a vendor, a’la titan residuum.
Raiders will still have an advantage, because they can get more currency, but that’s ok - you do more content, you get more rewards. But pure M+ players can still have access to tier sets, and won’t be forced to raid.
Will they do it this way? I don’t know. But we don’t know a thing about how they plan to do tier sets. We’ve also seen that they’re making quite a few changes that improve the game for casual players (less grinds, more alt friendly systems, etc), so it is a fair assumption that tier sets will not be raid bound.
I have no Faith that blizz will honestly put them into M+… they werent in legion. they’re not gonna change that now.
As i say, i dont trust their intention. theres Lots of other routes they coulda put into the game to change this Situation for their “Reasoning” without Throwing a End game alternative out the window.
they want more people to HC Raid. why would they make this decision they go back 2 steps to Simply Undo that.
if blizzard were trying to murder the prtogression in M+ they’re hardly gonna admit it… they’ll find other reasoning to justify it.
Does that matter? Iwas timing 20/21/22’s. Why shouldnt i be allowed to aim for my BIS? Dont have to be pushing 30’s to want to make myself as efficient as possible.
its not easier. its straight up lazy and spiteful toward a huge chunk of the playerbase.
your right and your wrong.
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Viability =/= Player perception… U are not Measured on what the content demands but what the players demand.
If a Player Is gonna Decline u for not being BiS they’re not doing it because the content REQUIRES you to be BiS. they’re doing it because THEY want you to be BiS.
Path of Least resistance = Inviting only the highest Players to make the run as Easy as Possible. this is what we all do.
U dont need to be 470 to do a +15… but most Players will Require you to be.
a Sub rogue. can Time a +15 key. That dont mean u’ll be Invited as a Sub rogue though. Any class in the game can do uptoo a +20. it dont mean they’ll invite any class.
also. u ignore how much more powerful Main stat is in SL then what it is in BFA> currently main stat doesnt matter near as much if u get BiS secondary stats
Next expansion… Main Stat will be Huge upgrades… so higher ilevel will be Worse then it is now.