Well, that is also about gear. The number of m+ level totally depends on it. We had 1 shot on a +24 PF (after timing the 23) with sang + necrotic on tournament realm and we almost timed it t too. But echelon is definitely a 1 shot on tyrannical.
we outgear most key levels in like 5 weeks, let me tell you this, 252 is enough to time any +26 key and idk mate, press a defensive on tyrannical echelon and you´ll live with some healing unless you go for actual high keys but then again you wouldnt do that without an decurse
Sure 
I got different experiences. Battle resses are also a resource 
Imo there are just way more gimmicks in the current dungeons. That’s it. More mandatory utility and damage profile per dungeon or you can not even finish the dungeon. We didnt had this in BFA, It is like going to 1st boss PF and you do not have any CC in the group. Have fun.
I really want to avoid answering all the same comments for a fourth time. So I will suggest you go back and read all my replies and you’ll understand my though process.
I do however want to clear up a few of your comments.
I literally could not care less for the players who do this. There is absolutely nothing impressive about people who sit in front of their computers for hours on end. And that’s even talking about how I play the game as well.
Although I do like M+ to a degree. I also feel that the mentality of Push push push has harmed and held back the development of the rest of the game. If you don’t understand what I mean, you have obviously never enjoyed this game.
I wasn’t really clear on what I was saying here. It was more of a subtle nudge towards those who moan that they have to unlock flying every new expansion/patch. The game is better when you are exploring the world of Warcraft.
Lol lol lol lol. Do you really want another player to unsubscribe from the game? It’s a bad sign when so many have left the game and all that remain are the few battling it out for a 0.1% title?
WoW is a good game. But Shadowlands is the worst rendition of a good game. The game should be a 1000 times better than it is now.
Really, you think Revendreth (actually pretty astounding and unique in WoW) is better seen from the ground? Opinions are personal and we are all entitled to ours, but you’re missing something if you think the worm’s eye view enhances the splendor of the scenery.
Moving swiftly on…
If it’s someone bemoaning the game and generally dousing the fires of positivity with vitriolic outpourings or just generally being a sour-puss then I don’t mind if they unsub.
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If you don’t expect to receive a stupid response like that, then don’t make a stupid comment like the one that you originally made.
I’m here trying to point out how whilst the game has continued to fail a huge number of it’s players (including those who have moved on to greener pastures), the developers are conentrating on reward just 0.1% of few players who still remain playing the game.
If that is the way to make the game great again then then game is just going to fall apart even more in the coming years.
Honestly, mate, if all you can bring to this topic is toxicity in comment like “Lol, unsub”, then you’re as much of a problem in this game as the developers are. Lets focus on being inclusive, rather than exclusive.
I’m trying to constructively point out the areas of the game that need to be improved drastically for the sub count to start going up again. You’re actively tell me that I’m being negative and a sour-puss?
Sorry, I remember when this game catered to everyone and every aspect of the game. Now it’s push repeat push repeat.
More wait for spawn, kill, no drop, wait for spawn, kill, no drop… repeat repeat repeat…
Yes, I would much rather spend a my time on the ground whilst the content is current.
Those zones you fly over on your flying mounts have stories to tell. They have depth, they have secrets and by flying over them you skip all of that content.
Shadowlands just didn’t bother with indepth zones and is probably it’s biggest failing of all.
Ground mounts when the content is current. Flying mounts are fine when the content is completed.
Yes and it’s good that they have stuff for people who likes to push that high keys. What’s the problem?
And it starts again…
Because they’re forgetting about everyone else who plays the game.
But it’s not like them adding a title for the people who likes to push high keys will make them not add stuff for everyone else lol.
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It’s not like they put a title in for the top 0.1% of players who have done the most WQ’s each season. At the end of the day, why should 1 small group of people get something and everyone else left with nothing.
The rest of the game is failing miserably with no new content for 8 months. But Blizz will happily put a title in for a 0.1% of the remaining players. “Thanks for keeping the Lights on guys”. Or how about you focus on making the game for everyone again and you’ll have enough subscribers to light up the whole street!
this thread has supplied so much entertainment for me and my friends for the past few days , thank you for bringing joy to the world.
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Absolutely my pleasure friend. Would you like to join in as well?
Okay where do we start.
First of all the 0.1% title. How long do you think does it take to implement a title like this and how long do you think does it take to develope a zone, quests, new mechanics and so on.
Do you think you are the only one without content the last few months?
Everyone hadnt had content in the last few months and the the reason for that is not some dumb M+ Achievment. The current content draught indicates that there is alot of sh*t happening behind the scenes, not because they focus on the wrong things.
And this whole 0,1% argument that gets thrown around all over the place is just dumb as always.
You demand that your wishes are heard but you dont give a flying f*ck what other people want.
Theres alot of players that play this game and want to be competetive. Something that alot of people have in common that play games 
And this is the first time in 3 expansions of M+ that those players get something to push for in 5-6 Years. (i dont like M+ btw). and your reaction is to COMPLAIN.
Have you ever seens a “tOp 0,1% pLaYeR” complain about them adding new achievments for exploring / pet battles / or whatever? NO. Why would anyone care, it doesnt make a difference at all.
You’re not even trying to understand that for alot of people stuff like this gave them motiviation to push harder and get better.
So why should they listen to you when u dont care about other players?
This whole thread is an ego trip :
→ I cant understand why people like it therefore its bad . Oh and also because of this title we dont have content for months. ???
Let them have their title, good for them.
Next time they implement stuff for casual players good for you, i dont give a f*ck about transmog or other stuff thats not important for raiding but if it makes you happy why not implement it.
WoW is not a game played by 1 group of people but alot of different groups that like different stuff. Giving all of them new stuff every patch is super hard but this whole “THEY GOT SOMETHING THAT I DIDNT GET” sh*t gets us nowhere.
Oh yeah and back to the 0.1%
You know when this game was the most successful?
When it was desinged by the 0.1% and designed to be hard and grindy.
Classic, TBC and a good part of WotLK was alot unfriendlier for casuals than it is today, but people enjoyed it alot more.
It’s similar to the dark souls games.
If the content is hard and takes alot of time it feels rewarding when you finish it. And there is always motivation to get better yourself.
Nowadays WoW is a fastfood mmo. You get 90% of the content spoonfeed extremly quickly. And the 10% is some dumbass chore so that you stay.
Completing any of it doesnt feel rewarding but just another chore that you finished.
And the mindset reflects that whole thing.
Back then most people didnt see most of the raid content but they didnt care.
There was a certain understanding that that was only content for the top players (or sweatiest or whatever you want to call it) And that was it.
That also gave an incentive for them to get better, improve their gameplay or having a goal with their guild.
Today there forums are : I CANT DO THIS CONTENT BECAUSE OF X ; SO ITS UNFAIR AND OTHER SHOULDNT HAVE IT ASWELL.
Oh and Blizzard, pls focus more on class design and gameplay <3 We dont need 20 systems and stuff. Give us good class design and talent trees with functunal choices <3 pandaria was a blast in that regard^^
Sorry I didn’t read the whole post. It’s first thing in the morning and your post is too long.
I expect this takes a lot longer to implement that you expect it does. It will take meetings to decide this, it will require approval from the up above and it will have probably been re-hashed a few times before it was even announced.
My point is, if you get a title and not much else, you gotta question what else’s is going on.
Now I’m not going to quote you because you used BAD LANGUAGE(!!!).
But the reason I might not be taking a lot of responses quite so so seriously is because the only people left playing this game is the players doing the content which is being questioned! Of course they are going to defend it!
EVERYBODY ELSE GOT BORED AND LEFT! Have you seen how dead the forums are?
It is of course strange someone thinks only the M+ title is the thing that is implemented and that it took all the resources. While korthia, maw invasions, the raid, etc, etc were also created. And those things took thousands times more resources than a 0.1% title.
Blizzard just has a problem, that is very clear. They are making the seasons longer and are skipping a patch. I am pretty sure Blizz is not happy with these long seasons either.
First up, I thought you had me on ignore.
And we’ve been here before but…
Korthia, MAW invasions, etc etc are a mere shadow in quality of whatever we’ve had in the past. It’s not like we got a Nazjatar or Faction Assaults, something that was fun and worth working towards?
Can’t remember the last Maw invasion I did, I still do Legion Assault from time to time (yesterday in fact).
And 1 raid for 8months? Do you see how quickly they finish the raid? That’s over in a few days usually, they have to time gate it to make it last longer.
The fact you expect people too read your 70 paragraphs but cant read one guys well argumented post because its ‘too long’ proves how selfish of a player you are, and reinforces Maglars point of ‘You demand that your wishes are heard but you dont give a flying f*ck what other people want.’
They probaly made the 0.1% title in less than a week, if not maybe a day,
No, I just turn off when people start through swear words around. It doesn’t matter if you try to censor them, they’re still not appropriate for use on these forums.
If you want someone to read your post, try writing it politely rather than swearing your head off.
Well apparently it was because ‘It was early in the morning’ so you couldnt read, Now its because of the swear words? Get your story straight. Seems like you only listen when it suits your narrative.
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There is no real need to respond on that toxic jerk. He is just going to insult when someone writes a polite post that disagrees with this oppinions. He does not accept others. And he is of course totally not fair about the M+ title costing us a whole new raid and whatever big patch containing a new area.