Any news if this increases the ilvl upgrade cap for m+ gear from the +15 achievement?
Nope, it give you a portal to the dungeons you timed on +20, and that’s it.
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^^ This
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Oh that is neat, this kinda flew under my radar but atleast there is some reward for doing keys higher than +15.
I still think there should be more than a portal but it’s a step in the right direction
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Raiders get sweet gems with special effects in the maw and the raid, M+ players get…a tp.
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M+ gets the easy content a free gear so is fair.
Less efford less reward.
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Have you step foot in 20s to say it’s easy?
It’s probably as hard or harder than some mythic bosses.
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True, but… it’s not the 20s that give 226 reward, now is it? M+ is easy and too rewarding. You may have an argument if you needed to do a +20 to get a 226 item in your vault. Currently, M+ is a way for people who do not have the time to raid to get some gear and keep them engaged. That’s the benefit of M+ - lower engagement, easier and more accessible reward.
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That doesn’t mean the rewards need to be equal to raid.
My point is simply that M+ deserve less rewards than raiding.
From what I saw in 9.1, the m+ affix will be anima powers in the dungeons. So it’s not like M+ gets nothing. And the portals are a REALLY good reward, and I don’t understand how someone won’t see this. I care more about the portals than having some special powers in the easy daily quest zone. The portals actually matter and will stay even after SL is over.
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The portals don’t help the nim-max players do more damage, that is why they don’t like.
My point exactly, why can’t we get better rewards in 20s? 20s should have rewarded some 233s items like mythic raiding this season.
According to whom? Blizzard sold M+ like that when it was introduced?
I only play M+ and I’m basically forced to wait weeks if not months to get the same ilvl as raiders or pvpers.
If M+ is end game content like raids or pvp it should reward in the same manner and the only reason they are not doing it imo is because of world first raiding guilds who would abuse the heck out of everything they can to get gear asap.
Cause mythic plus is infinite spamable and raid no.
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Then put some limitations like raids, you could be limited to one item per week for M+ end dungeon’s chest.
Its called vault, its one item per week 226.
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No it’s not, raiders get 226 on bosses, pvpers can outright target the items they want and farm the valor, M+ players get worthless 210 items.
Why can’t I get a 226 in the first weekly 20 key I do for instance?
Why? M+ is simply content that has set reward. If the reward isn’t good for you… don’t do it? There’s no good argument about why M+ should give reward equal to raids other than “I feel it should”. Currently, there’s clearly no issues with the M+ reward structure, because the mode is shockingly active. If the reward was garbage, the mode would be dead…
You’re basically complaining that people who play harder content, who play more of the game than you do get better rewards. Grow up. Raids have a weekly lockout, M+ doesn’t, so you really don’t have to “wait a week”. A 14 drops a 223 item at the end if I remember right, and you can farm them infinitely. Versus raids, which you have only one chance per week.
You have easier, infinitely farmable content dropping slightly lesser reward than mythic raids, which are much harder and have a weekly lockout. It looks good to me.
14 drops 207 at end and 226 is on vault.
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to be fair, yes, but thats pretty much mythic raid gear and i d argue only a small fraction of the player base really raids on mythic difficulty. so i wouldnt say “raiders get 226s on bosses” because only a small percetnage really does.
plus, m+ers can upgrade their gear to 220 if they have the achievements and get 226s in the weekly vault. thats more than raiders get because their vault loot doesnt upgrade.
There’s no good argument for the opposite either, afaik Blizzard introduced M+ as endgame content so it should reward equally.
It’s really not lol, from my experience a lot of M+ players stopped because the affixes are bad, the dungeon design is overall meh and it feels like wasting time because there’s no rewards past the mount for KSM.
Did you read what I wrote literally 20 minutes ago? Have you ever been in 20s? They are as hard if not harder than mythic raiding.
Why did you feel the need to be insulting for no reason when we were just having a discussion? Especially when you failed to acknowledge what I previously wrote, it would’ve saved us both some time.
Literally my previous post was the answer to that, glad you took the time to read, again.
It doesn’t to me, I’ve put hundreds of hours into M+ since the release of SL and I’m still not even 226 doing at least 10 keys weekly, I feel like my time is wasted and it shouldn’t.
Early in the season it’s impossible to upgrade your gear to 220 (or the equivalent next season), most people can’t complete 15s unless they are decently geared and valor is capped.