Ehm, hate to break it for you, but Mages were A-Tier in M+ before the buffs. They were clearing the highest keys.
Thanks to the buffs, they are now S-Tier …again.
While this is about M+, even tho they might not had the highest DPS in raids, they still got invited due to their int-buff.
It was not worth breaking M+ balance again for that.
well, you wrong a bit coz I can tell you about a goliath where most thin classes can tp out, wear pvp trink and be insta summoned back to go deal with the boss
16-18 keys
no hc runs
well, you know, i’m not surprised, it says everything for itself
and yea, if warlock doesn’t summon his onions at the beginning of the dungeon or ignores when someone ask for it - it’s a way for him to go in ignore list instantly
every single warlock im played with always resumm it before each boss or every time it’s came off cd
I mean who actually gets screwed by volcanic? It does near nothing. All you have to do is side-step it, but it takes so long to go off that it goes off before no cast that I’m aware of, except for hardcast pyro, but in this case you’re a mage so you use Ice Floes and step 5ft sideways and continue. In fact, since it also does almost no damage, you might not even to do that. Just let it knock you into the air with Ice Floes and keep casting like a baws.
If it spawns under me when I press void torrent I legit want to alt F4. It’s one of the lower impact affixes for sure but there’s specs it affects disproportionately more than others.
It will not go off before Void Torrent finishes. It’s a little annoying though I imagine, yes.
Because it does so little damage I’d probably just take the hit - though you might not take one anyway. :x
On my healer I do currently +22 keys or so and I see healing done when there is warlock in the end of the dungeon. 
if you expect being summoned when you do dungeons when there are teleports in valdrakken - you have a problem
This topic is about m+.
There are some specific instances in VERY high keys where people will go out to swap specs or trinkets for one boss and get summoned back. It’s super uncommon but with the timers being as lenient as they are it does come up. Like in everbloom you may as well go full Single Target for the last boss to maximise your chance of success, same with Galakrond’s fall.
There’s even been some cases of people swapping to PvP trinkets for Soulbound Goliath so they can break out of the stun.
Do you know that there are timer and you have no time for that? and some very-very specific encounters could be made much easier when you have summon literally in face of boss? Actually @Ellipsìs already described that
I should also mention that, for most of these, the time difference between using a warlock portal and just being very efficient with a HS + Dungeon port isn’t that significant. WM is weird because it’s not an end boss and you need to be able to get back out again to swap back, which takes a lot of time, but for something like fall if you just HS + Dungeon port back during the RP you’re not losing any time.
last time I used that in de other side for muehzala but sure here it also can be used and as in BRH for example last boss hits hard it became reasonable to wear on it tank trinket too
yea, there isn’t a bit count of things you actually could have a significant benefit from that but that’s still a benefit and could be used to save up 10-20 seconds which could be critical at some point
I like how it’s coming from a lock
I thought you mean to the dungeon. Yeah, that summoning does help a bit on top of that the gate is used in one dungeon. It definitely makes up to mage utility and survivability, and party wide buff
Even if so, I literally play destro
Yes, destro locks S/A tier for a year.
Imagine referencing heroic stats by default xD I think you just demonstrated how uneducated your opinion is in this matter. Not even gonna tell you why, go figure it out yourself.
Guess you aren’t really doing high keys then.
Yes mages are not weak, nobody is arguing for it. However they’re not this all 3 specs op, nerf it immediately class like OP suggested.
Despite that, I’m sure you can see how a class with two high performing m+ specs getting buffs to both of those specs for raid tuning that pushes those specs even higher in mythic+ can frustrate someone. Especially when other classes have had their non meta specs sit in the dumpster for whole tiers with nothing more than lip service aura buffs.
i do get that but frost isn’t the OP spec they think it is. just because 2-3 streamers do good doesn’t mean the spec is good. even now after the buffs its data shows that it’s an average performin spec. aug is the reason why people think mage is OP i’m sure if/when aug gets replaced people will realise demolock is a bigger issue
Imagine failing so hard that you do not understand the context being talked about.
CONGRATULATIONS you played yourself you failed on the VERY simplest thing you need to know.
You literally failed at understanding why it was brought up in the first place.
I guess you do not listen to people who does 30s and 31s.
It is literally being argued about right here in this thread.
This thread would not be as long as it is if people actually had done what you claim they are doing.
2 out of 3 specs was strong enough to do the very highest content in the game before getting buffed in m+.
The 1 spec that was not strong in M+ was strong enough in Raid to be middle of the pack and did not need a buff to be used for raiding at the very highest content.
No it literally does, it just means most people are bad at it. Most people are bad at every spec.
Aug has very little baring on the strength of individual specs now that the majority of its burst scaling has been tuned down.
Season 2 Prot paladin was nerfed SPECIFICALLY because of a total of 20people 4 groups used prot paladin to do keys without a healer in the top 10 000keys.
WRONG and it is SO proven to be wrong that the MAGE theorycrafters disagree with you the top teams disagree with you on this idea.
well sp is performing better than frost mage right now and it’s definitely not an easier spec . frost is objectively mid atm
yeah they disagree now, they were the ones who topped the charts with aug mage combo tho.
as i told u before ,there are more warlocks in top 100 dps than mages