its obviously not hard to dispell as healer.
but it can be hard in higher key levels where there is a high prio dot that has to be dispelled. combine that with low iq mages/hybrids that doesnt dispell and its recipe for tilt.
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For priest I had to twitch the talents I didnât know because I mailed holy priest this season, these people are just salty 
and anyways, I wonât dispell since I need the dispells in higher keys anyways
These people entire life is just gasligh, power trip and make people explain themselves about everything. Must be hard life irl if they act this way on forum
taking atleast 1 of them is common id say as healer.
i can handle both in 80%+ of the situations, but its a bad habit for dps to rely on that, since when its a stressfull situation and i need their help its not like i can yell at them since its all pugs no voice lol.
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Yes, as priest there is a handy PW life for it, so I can have dispell ready if needed for team mates, since MD on 2 min CD nowadays.
Maybe in lower keys they do not use Satan Cookies, but in higher keys Healthstones are very valuable and everyone uses them.
As for Mage Utility and damage in M+ right now, yeah it is very good, one might say itâs too good, specially if you pair it with a Aug + Chaos Brand, and run with the same group so you know what to use where, I mean the highest keys done are pretty much 99% Mage/Aug for a reason, it is just very very good, utility and damage wise, but what can you do about it without destroying something somewhere, theyâre not that good in the Raid right now.
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And they got a buff to ALL 3 specs because of this something that is not normal they normally buff 1 spec in that scenario.
Also 2 mage specs was already used in the highest keys being 30s before any buffs to the specs.
Also you can not claim mage is doing bad in raid right now with Arcane mage after the buff being number 6 on overall highest dps spec in the game for the raid on mythic and number 1 on heroic by a lot.
And that is with the Christmas situation where less people are raiding.
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Yeah I havenât really looked at the stats after the buff they received, but before the buffs they weâre pretty much at the bottom in Raid, all 3 specs, thatâs the reason they got buffed, even though they weâre already Meta in M+, itâs a weird situation, thatâs what I meant with what can you do about it without destroying something somewhere, seems really hard to balance this, I think most of the problem lies with the Mage + Aug Synergy in M+ right now, it is just too strong.
Windwalker Monk was not buffed for a very long time when they where bottom of the dps lists on Raid because they where strong in M+
All blizzard had to do was not have Fire and Frost be buffed and just buff Arcane.
before the buffs it was a question if mage was actually the best option for that slot.
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Hm, Windwalker is a different story I think, they seem to always get ignored for a long time, even though it was extremely weak in Raid compared to M+, it still wasnt strong in M+ before the buffs, it was still on the lower end, one of the worst melee specs out there for M+, before the buffs that is.
And that couldve maybe been an option, just buffing Arcane, after reading the fire buffs and even frost buffs, I knew that it was going to be way to strong for M+ since it was already meta, but you will still have ppl complaining then because there are plenty of ppl playing fire/frost in Raids and never touch M+, and dont like Arcane at all, but I still dont agree with the fire or frost buffs they recieved, itâs fine for the Raid but itâs just way too much for M+.
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or they are correct and you get carried all the time .
its ok though - its ok to enjoy being carried - just dont be a hypocrite 
Most of the classes have some kind of 5% raid buff.
Warrs can remove fear, etc⌠on the other hand, how many stuns do you get usually in m+ tho? 0?
Just like 70% of other classes.
What is bad interrupt if CS is good? Also melees have better interrupt as usual.
No? DB is good, but we donât have any kind of hard cc. There are multiple other classes with better CC.
Lol, free food instead if 1g, so much utility.
Why not list Icy veins and combustion as well if you list our own mini bl? Every class have offensive cds lol.
Mages are not in a bad shape, but most of the utilities you listed are stupid. Also mages have their own weakspots, low hp and passive mitigation(when barrier is not up), no sustain, no hard cc, mostly ramping dmg.
Blink is super powerful in Waycrest on tree boss.
can also blink the stun in everbloom if people are bad at kicking 
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One dungeon, one boss which is good but itâs not solving the fight in itself. I would hardly call that OP in general. Druids can shapeshift out of some mechanics, DKs can immune stuns and forced movement abilities, warrs can remove fear from Rezan, etc. Neither of those abilities are OP cuz of some niche example.
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it straight up trivialize the fight, if you get lucky and the mage get most / all of them you just removed the mechanic.
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But you canât reliable get it, you canât plan with it, youâre happy if it happens once or twice, but you can expect it to carry you if youâre unable to do the fight.
lets use Ret paladin then as the example the historically lowest dps spec in the game based on 5 expansions. (at 2% above average while Mage has a 98% above average for referance)
It has never been META dps in M+ it almost became that in this expansion but instantly got nerfs because of the cry babies on the forums the moment ret does anything decently.
It is on the cusp of being meta now in m+ even though it is doing really badly in raid. (being from bottom the 4th worst spec now)
And the way blizzard buffed it shows they do not understand what ret need even though it is easy to get data on it.
There is a reason people call mage the favorite class of blizzard.
Looks about right.
Fire is OP because they synergise well with Evoker, and Evoker is OP.
Ther rest of the mage specs are inferior to the warlock specs, except affli which is just trash.
The comparison to warlock has already been made. Warlocks have some powerful utilities that mages lack. Saying mages are OP because of the food table is like saying warlock is OP because they can summon people if someone accidentally releases too far away after a wipe. Technically nice, but not necessary.
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Also paladins, human racial, pvp trinkets (you know there are top groups who run out and equip pvp trinkets specifically for that boss?).
well yeah, itâs a brutal boss which is why blink is so absurdly powerful in that fight
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sheep is a hard CC you might be talking about True CC like Imprison but not many classes has those at all.
Not really the case for Frost.
The 7 defensive buttons is a fix for that.
Survivability is one of the STRONG points of mage.
And Fire even have a Cheat death.
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