Mages and Triune Ward

Triune should be nerfed to apply just one buff with 3 shields effect, so it wouldn’t give a dispell protection (that one moron claimed “just dispell it”, yeah, with 10% mana per each shield)

Also NF conduit should be looked at, doing 50% healing of your arena healer with passive ability isn’t a normal thing, or, sooner, or later there will be only mages and paladins in arena.

Nerf fire mage not triune, arcane and frost are already so bad in pvp to nerf their triune.

Yeah, nerf combustion since it got a 50% dmg buff since BfA. (How? Crit got reverted to 200% dmg in PvP situations from 150%, so combustion is bonkers high damage).

Honestly tho triune makes mages super tanky. Fire mage would be viable even without it due to the high damage potential combustion gives.

It is already op without triune :

globaling people without triune

also this is 100% buff to combust
from +50 to +100 bonus

Yes it is what I mean

175%*

10char

Oh really? Then 25% buff I guess :woman_shrugging:

16.6666…% buff

frost is bad because of damage tho, has absolutely zero to do with survivability.

pretty sure it went to 175% from 150%, not 200%. Thats not why Combustion dmg is crazy though, Rune of Power and the Infernal Cascade Conduit cause that. combine give you a 50% - 60% dmg increase when you Combust.

Frost isn’t bad though, but it doesn’t have as many comps, and plays a very different role than fire does

it’s not bad it just doesn’t have any top tier comps and plays a role that doesn’t work in this meta.

…so it’s bad then?

Just because a comp isn’t top tier doesn’t mean it still isn’t perfectly viable, godcomp and frost/balance are honestly pretty good. Hell, I’ve even been playing fire/frost/disc in 3s and it’s not bad.

Kinda does though

Just because fire is better doesn’t mean frost is bad

Oh. Thank you for correcting me!

No problem =)

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so frost is viable in pvp, what do you mean by viable ?

More than good enough to get gladiator with, and likely possible to get r1 with as well

if you remove survival from a class that is already performing bad because of low damages it make the class even worse right ?
Also, you are wrong, frost is missing dragon breath to deal with mele class and has much less mobility compared to fire mage,

haha there is two gladiators in EU , 2600 et 2500 that’s all
do you understand what these numbers mean ???

That most people play fire because it’s stronger