Make gear matter again

31/10/2018 00:05Posted by Skyrha
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Where is this crystal ball of yours where it shows that people put zero effort into the game ?

Perhaps you should put more effort into doing EZ stuff and hard stuff to increase your titan forge chance, you no effort slacking reprobate.

and oh if you havent got the time for it, then thats your problem you lazy wow slacker., and therefore you do not deserve high I level titanforge with slots.


I'm not surprised you try so hard to defend titanforging, seeing as more than half your mythic 2 runs are untimed, can't even finish the very lowest of content eh?
"Worldsbest" oh please.


youre so toxic its pathetic. in vanila you wouldnt even have a guild with that attitude
You crying that they should fire ion on about a 100 threads is far more pathethic mr Retributor, and with so much complaining I don't think the vanilla you worship so much would suit you one bit, no titanforging and stuff you know.
31/10/2018 00:13Posted by Worldsbest
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I'm not surprised you try so hard to defend titanforging, seeing as more than half your mythic 2 runs are untimed, can't even finish the very lowest of content eh?
"Worldsbest" oh please.


untimed ? I have done 2 mythic 2 runs 1 was a my first one and the second I did was in another place with better gear and an easier dungeon?

And what you said isnt even an arguement.

Worldsbest trigger you does it ? because you are not worldsbest?

Go away you pathetic piece of XXXT

Titanforging is wonderful , I especially like how it triggers the little brained entitled brats like yourself.

That in of itself is enough reason for it to stay.:P


1 hour and 15 mins on King's rest +2, 53 minutes on Underrot +3, maybe you'll make it in time some day.
Dear OP.

You are entitled to your opinions and no doubt players of similar disposition towards WoW will share your views.

I was once, quite a few years ago, in a position where gear was everything, there was tons of rivalry in the guild and the whole experience was quite stressing and time-consuming.

Then came the first WoW expansion.

Immediately, all my hard-earned gear was SCRAP. Greens were suddenly better than my hard-earned purple gear!!

So it has continued ever since.

Nowadays, gear means nothing to me, because I quit doing raids and just play the game for the other rich content it has.

I would stop worrying about gear 'give-aways' and calling players 'non-deserving', those gear stats are way, way below the gear that hard-core players get through their endeavours.

Also, just think about those players who have the highest level gear in the game.

So what? The majority of players (I think) could not give a hoot as long as they are reasonably equipped to play their game, which probably includes >75% of the player base.
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untimed ? I have done 2 mythic 2 runs 1 was a my first one and the second I did was in another place with better gear and an easier dungeon?

And what you said isnt even an arguement.

Worldsbest trigger you does it ? because you are not worldsbest?

Go away you pathetic piece of XXXT

Titanforging is wonderful , I especially like how it triggers the little brained entitled brats like yourself.

That in of itself is enough reason for it to stay.:P


1 hour and 15 mins on King's rest +2, 53 minutes on Underrot +3, maybe you'll make it in time some day.


If i cared about mythic + so much i would do more, as for being on time the last one i did was a plus 2 and we finished it easily and set the weekly record.

as far as im concerned ive done 2 mythic + runs only .

I know what this is , because you are huge ego arrogant fool, you think everyone else is .. sorry i do dungeons for fun and if i feel like, and i wont be doing many mythic + runs until i do some easier ones first, unless they are a + 2 , i havent even been in all the dungeons yet probably either.

We all have to start somewhere , clowns such as yourself rush through and then expect everyone else to also, but6 mythic + is almost impossible to gate twit, and with forging, its so very nice for gears for the players who are competent enough to do the high keys

You will never5 be worlds best because you are an IDIOT:P.

Must really Piss you off that your i level isnt so special anymore :P!
https://puu.sh/BSdol/59bdb367ef.jpg
This one? I did quite well I'd say. Not everyone needs gear to perform well.
Any more questions dear?
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31/10/2018 00:30Posted by Skyrha
to argue with scrubs


lol n1 you calling somebody a scrub looooooooooooooooooooool fml yeah ok keep taking the pills mate

g8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
Leave me some more messages to read in the morning, I always enjoy a good chuckle.
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If i cared about mythic + so much i would do more, as for being on time the last one i did was a plus 2 and we finished it easily and set the weekly record.

as far as im concerned ive done 2 mythic + runs only .

I know what this is , because you are huge ego arrogant fool, you think everyone else is .. sorry i do dungeons for fun and if i feel like, and i wont be doing many mythic + runs until i do some easier ones first, unless they are a + 2 , i havent even been in all the dungeons yet probably either.

We all have to start somewhere , clowns such as yourself rush through and then expect everyone else to also, but6 mythic + is almost impossible to gate twit, and with forging, its so very nice for gears for the players who are competent enough to do the high keys

You will never5 be worlds best because you are an IDIOT:P.

Must really Piss you off that your i level isnt so special anymore :P!


My ilvl was never special, I just find it hilarious to argue with scrubs who fight for titanforging like their life depends on it. And with all the statistics and stuff it's easy to find your main, you tried to complete normal Uldir, you tried mythic+, but you couldn't get past 3rd boss in Uldir and +3, so go on, keep trolling on your alt how "Raiding is cancerous" as you say in your many comments that I enjoy reading.


There is no argument for forgings removal.SO you only perceive yourself as argueing

AND IF MY ACCOUNT HAS STEPPED FOOT INSIDE AN ULDIR RAID THEN SOMEONE ELSE HAS USED MY ACCOUNT.

LIke i said i have 0 reason to lie, i havent even BEEN IN NORMAL ULDIR ONCE.

I HAVE ONLY DONE 2 MYTHIC +RUNS

Ive said in the past raiding is cancerous - and it is in contexts.Raiding can also be FUN.

Enjoy my comments Boosty bar kid;p!
This thread is ready to be closed.

Shame, because OP put in the time and effort to make a solid post.
31/10/2018 00:36Posted by Skyrha
Leave me some more messages to read in the morning, I always enjoy a good chuckle.


MMMMMMM juicy

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/argent-dawn/skyrha/achievements/feats-of-strength/raids

no curve ?
no cutting edge ?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/argent-dawn/skyrha/achievements/dungeons-raids

only just completed a 10 this expac

is this where you tell us you didnt play legion or your account was hacked or your new to the game .
this where you tell us your hideing your main and achivements and your really doing 15s every week and done 8/8 mythic top 100 horde ?
Titanforging is just a part of the problem imo, the bigger problems are free epic gear pieces from doing basically nothing. You get a Heroic Uldir level gear piece for doing 4 mythic dungeons from a quest this week. You get a 370 item every week from warfronts, and the emmisary reward gives 370 azerite (I know this last one was just a quick fix because people didn't get azerite outside of raids, and will probably be gone next tier).

Then ATOP of that, we got titanforging/sockets, non raiders or normal raiders get Heroic level gear thrown at them, with a chance of it becoming a Mythic level item. All these things factor into the big issue. I think they should just stop handing out raid level gear from nothing, would give incentive to join guilds and start raiding, and further the gap between raiders and non-raiders.
31/10/2018 01:06Posted by Flanör
You get a 370 item every week from warfronts,


WF are not every week they are once every 3 weeks

31/10/2018 01:06Posted by Flanör
You get a 370 item every week from warfronts, and the emmisary reward gives 370 azerite


only if you have above item lvl 365 +

31/10/2018 01:06Posted by Flanör
You get a Heroic Uldir level gear piece for doing 4 mythic dungeons from a quest this week


1 every 6 weeks

and 1 world boss every 3 weeks

TW/WF for LFR and Normal raiders has a lesser chance built in read Q and As

I agree TW/WF is a problem so is gear but atleast deal in facts not hyperbol
31/10/2018 01:06Posted by Flanör
Titanforging is just a part of the problem imo, the bigger problems are free epic gear pieces from doing basically nothing. You get a Heroic Uldir level gear piece for doing 4 mythic dungeons from a quest this week. You get a 370 item every week from warfronts, and the emmisary reward gives 370 azerite (I know this last one was just a quick fix because people didn't get azerite outside of raids, and will probably be gone next tier).

Then ATOP of that, we got titanforging/sockets, non raiders or normal raiders get Heroic level gear thrown at them, with a chance of it becoming a Mythic level item. All these things factor into the big issue. I think they should just stop handing out raid level gear from nothing, would give incentive to join guilds and start raiding, and further the gap between raiders and non-raiders.


Time isn't nothing and easy epics from X sources cost time.

You just dont want other people competing against you in any shape or form.
30/10/2018 21:32Posted by Worldsbest
Go raid mythic and get your realistic best in slot.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i like how you think there would be BiS items dropping in the raid :'D Garbage it is, that raids are droping nowadays, if you want your BiS stuff, you spend 24/7 in m+, because of retardforging and overall much more loot than in a raid.

retardforging is not fun in the long run. Yes hampidumby is having this one second fun burst, when he gets his 395 + socket + avoidance luckdrop from the worldquest, and then thinks he can finally play with the other guys, because it was only his gear holding him back, juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust to be brought back to reality the hard way and then being the sad sad koala again, but now he escapes reality again, because it was these bad bad elitists that blocked his path.

An activity has to give APPROPRIATE rewards for that activity. Having even the CHANCE of getting a BiS item from a world quest is NOT appropriate, unless that world quest is on par with a mythic boss in terms of difficulty, which they aren't and never will be.
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31/10/2018 02:26Posted by Varileztra
30/10/2018 21:32Posted by Worldsbest
Go raid mythic and get your realistic best in slot.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i like how you think there would be BiS items dropping in the raid :'D Garbage it is, that raids are droping nowadays, if you want your BiS stuff, you spend 24/7 in m+, because of retardforging and overall much more loot than in a raid.

retardforging is not fun in the long run. Yes hampidumby is having this one second fun burst, when he gets his 395 + socket + avoidance luckdrop from the worldquest, and then thinks he can finally play with the other guys, because it was only his gear holding him back, juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust to be brought back to reality the hard way and then being the sad sad koala again, but now he escapes reality again, because it was these bad bad elitists that blocked his path.

An activity has to give APPROPRIATE rewards for that activity. Having even the CHANCE of getting a BiS item from a world quest is NOT appropriate, unless that world quest is on par with a mythic boss in terms of difficulty, which they aren't and never will be.


Garbage doesnt drop in raids sorry to inform you , and for your cocksure moronic response to be true requires lots of sufficent evidence.

385 from mythic - garbage ? yeah ok its garbage because its not forged is it XDDD

Pls link and compare all the loot tables, do the brain work , since you brought it up, you plank.

Do it for evry peice of loot + do all of the testing for every single class, also prove the testing you show is valid.

Ok ? so come back with sufficent evidence for your absolute moronic claim, you utter fool.

No one is stopping you from getting 395 trinket from 5 minute trash.

if i wanted to do mythic id have to group up with very possible !@#$ for brains like yourself, do you think i am as stupid as you are.?

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ANd, you clown king, the BASE I LEVEL LOOT DROPS HAVE A BIGGER CHANCE OF DROPPING DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

IS an FING APPROPRIATE REWARD . Mythic flat 385 Hur hurr

JEEZ LOUIS ID POSSIBLY GOUGE OUT MY EYES FOR THE CHANCE TO THROW JERKS LIKE YOU OUT OF A HELICOPTOR!

go smuggle drugs in the philapeans or something ! DO something positive for once in your I level nut licking life.
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If i cared about mythic + so much i would do more, as for being on time the last one i did was a plus 2 and we finished it easily and set the weekly record.

as far as im concerned ive done 2 mythic + runs only .

I know what this is , because you are huge ego arrogant fool, you think everyone else is .. sorry i do dungeons for fun and if i feel like, and i wont be doing many mythic + runs until i do some easier ones first, unless they are a + 2 , i havent even been in all the dungeons yet probably either.

We all have to start somewhere , clowns such as yourself rush through and then expect everyone else to also, but6 mythic + is almost impossible to gate twit, and with forging, its so very nice for gears for the players who are competent enough to do the high keys

You will never5 be worlds best because you are an IDIOT:P.

Must really Piss you off that your i level isnt so special anymore :P!


My ilvl was never special, I just find it hilarious to argue with scrubs who fight for titanforging like their life depends on it. And with all the statistics and stuff it's easy to find your main, you tried to complete normal Uldir, you tried mythic+, but you couldn't get past 3rd boss in Uldir and +3, so go on, keep trolling on your alt how "Raiding is cancerous" as you say in your many comments that I enjoy reading.


Your little stalking addon is faulty , now , armoury may be flawed but seemingly its raid progression isn't flawed.

DO you see any raid progression on this at all?

No you do not , and the reason you do not see any raid progression is because i havent set foot in a raid, ive had some chances to go, but i decided for X reasons not to go.

And i certainly wont be useing the cancerous LFG system where alot of the i lvel bis loot !@#$%s lurk.
I helped one of my friend that was on an alt on some M0,he dropped a trinket on freehold 360+socket and a 380 wrist....
Absolutely disgusting...
Gear dont matter anything,you dont have anything to work with.
You never have a bis item unless titanforged 395 (or 400?) + socket and leech,bis item doesnt exist anymore.
Either you remove this bullsh*t or give players that do challenging content a way to control this slot machine gear progression.
Also im in favour to remove titanforging from afk content and easy content,giving free gear to player doesnt make them good let them work for the gear.
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My ilvl was never special, I just find it hilarious to argue with scrubs who fight for titanforging like their life depends on it. And with all the statistics and stuff it's easy to find your main, you tried to complete normal Uldir, you tried mythic+, but you couldn't get past 3rd boss in Uldir and +3, so go on, keep trolling on your alt how "Raiding is cancerous" as you say in your many comments that I enjoy reading.


Your little stalking addon is faulty , now , armoury may be flawed but seemingly its raid progression isn't flawed.

DO you see any raid progression on this at all?

No you do not , and the reason you do not see any raid progression is because i havent set foot in a raid, ive had some chances to go, but i decided for X reasons not to go.

And i certainly wont be useing the cancerous LFG system where alot of the i lvel bis loot !@#$%s lurk.


There's no such thing as stalking addon, I just bluffed to see if you'd get desperate enough to post on your main, and thank you for doing so, now if we look at that piece of art, 8/8 LFR, never touched an Uldir raid, two mythic+ dungeons, and no pvp record, which points you barely play the game, same goes for Sulaa who tries so hard to defend options for her to get big ilvl gear. She claims she doesn't care about items and calls other elitists, and yet she wants so badly to be able to get high ilvl items without doing any content that rewards them. And that right there is my 0 effort point for you two, no effort, wanting rewards.

After your 1327 posts where you call raiding harmful to game and berate any rpg element WoW has, you got so easily lured into posting on your main by a few taunting comments, can't take criticism? Me saying you can't complete a mythic2 in time made you want to prove it to me you can? Then you do care, you are proud you completed that mythic2 in time and you could push much more, and you should, you'd have more fun in the game and see what the game is about. As for raiding, that requires guild, unless you're gonna pug normals like me.

There's no special talent that lets you clear heroic/mythic raids, finish high level keys, you just need a committed group and some effort, the more effort you do, the more time you put into it, the closer you get to your goal. If you are not willing to put in any effort, then don't spit on those that are.