I hope so. But I’m not getting my hopes up. I’ve seen a pattern when it comes to trolls and it ain’t positive.
I hope they introduce the unification of trolls with the Darkspear heritage armor quest at least
I hope so. But I’m not getting my hopes up. I’ve seen a pattern when it comes to trolls and it ain’t positive.
I hope they introduce the unification of trolls with the Darkspear heritage armor quest at least
For sure. But times change. As yet, we have only ever seen the troll empires in decline and all trolls except for the Darkspear as antagonists. But I think bfa and the Zandalari were a step into the right direction. They showed them as people and personalities, with families and a unique culture that is worth preserving and fighting for. I’m not getting my hopes up too much either, but there’s no walking back from that now. For me personally it’s the only good thing to come out of bfa.
Yes Ik’nal and Malaka’raz are most definitely “pets”. They’re special cases tho. The other tribes really seem to be tools for the Zandalari to solidify their position at the center of the trollkind
Can’t have a possibility of a troll tribe joining the alliance if all hop onto the zandalari story ship. Not saying that should happen, but having an open possibility is not a bad thing. Sometimes.
Chromie time opens up some interesting possibilities. Like “updating” the locations step by step instead of being locked into “have to do all at once”.
Even if the Death of Chromie scenario will come to fruition, we now have Eonian Archives as a replacement.
I remember watching a video from pre-TBC days about the thing. The justification and implications of the original consept are dramatically different from what we got in the end and IMO explains how odd the whole starting blood elf experience is, including the presence of the night elves.
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Watching them speak on that panel, in my mind just adds additional justification as to why they eventually decided to side with the Horde.
The fact they were tampering with demonic energies in order to survive provides a very narrow list of options. Even though the consequence of doing so made enemies of their previous friends in the Alliance.
Exposing themselves to the Fel on a genetic level as he put it, only occurred after Garithos attempted to instigate a genocidal policy as an act of revenge upon them and they had fled to Outland and Illidan.
It’s later on during TBC that we find out those still left on Azeroth are still struggling to survive. Even after sating their thirst for magic via questionable alternative means. The full truth of which isn’t really fully revealed to average citizen. You can argue the High Elves who remained neutral didn’t need to and are still around, yet even they were on the brink until the Sunwell was restored.
The decline and dwindling numbers was slow but inevitable until Velen stepped in to help.
Night Elves have always regarded themselves as the obscure guardians of the world. Particularly the natural world. The Orcs (Horde) encroaching on Ashenvale probably forced them to enlist outside help. The price of which was aligning with the Alliance, even if their views and interests on all matters didn’t necessarily converge at the time. It’s hard to say how this has changed since although they still show some level of autonomy via the actions they take unilaterally, irrespective of the wishes of others.
It’s sad to see what happened to the Drakkari in Northrend but, this is a case and point example of what happens when you betray your Loa (Gods) in a gambit for power to triumph over destiny in Troll culture. The Zandalari were on a similar path via the Blood Cult until the Horde intervened. In their case the driving force was an existential crisis rather than a physical threat like that of the Scourge. It was a test of their resolve and they failed, damning their entire civilisation in the process.
The whole story of Northrend is that of a cursed continent. Most races that live up there and and try to make a home in it seem to suffer some sort of tragic end eventually. There’s a feeling of a constant pull towards death and decay, which sort of makes sense now considering we now know this is the point on Azeroth where the veil is at it’s weakest.
What I think Blizz will eventually do with the majority of troll tribes that can be salvaged is to have them once again reunite under the protection of the Horde.
It will be piecemeal and not every tribe can be saved or will do so willingly.
If they do eventually get round to this, it’s very likely it will be handled in a similar way to how they’ve slowly brought the other Orc clans back into the fold over the past few expansions. The first step of which was getting the support of the Zandalari as the go between.
The Night Elves being in Quel’thelas. Ok I get that Night elves aren’t friendly with Highborne but if you watch Warcraft 3
Tyrande was actually the one who saved Kael’thas and his people from the scourge. She almost died Because of it too when the bridge broke off. She helped Kael’thas and his people when no one else did. Why would they suddenly spy on the Blood elves act like they are enemies as if they never met before.
Even if they started using “fel” Tyrande already met these people. She should know to send an ambassador asking for questions, instead of sending spies as if they are enemies who never met before.
The alliance Dwarf ambassador who happens to be a “spy”. Honestly this makes no sense. Dwarves have no problems at all with Elves. This isn’t lord of the Rings. during the second war elves were good friends with the dwarves, Same with the Highvale High elves in Hinterlands who are best friends with the Wildhammer dwarves (this is in Vanilla). Why would the Alliance care about sending spies to Quel’thelas, when Stormwind literally has High elf citizens living in it. (Again this is in Vanilla, before BC) . They also have a statue of Alleria outside of Stormwind. They honor the Elves of Silvermoon and always had. They even welcomed Void elves even though the Void is against Stormwind’s beliefs.
All of this is placed in the starting zone to justify them moving factions. As they said, the starting zone will explain it. But the quest they added (for the most part) make no sense at all. The only thing that made sense was the Undead helping because of Sylvanas. That’s it.
They also added a Darkspear captured by the Amani. The Darkspear guy explains his village nearby was attacked by the Amani and everyone in it were killed. This is Another quest in Eversong woods. Despite there being no Darkspear village near the Amani territories at all. The Darkspear live in the Echo Isles which is all the way in Kalimdor. Just a quest that don’t make sense added to make sure the blood elves get along with the Darkspear. The Amani’s main villain are the Blood elves. They never cared about hurting anyone else, especially not the Horde. So hurting a Darkspear makes no sense at all, especially since this is BEFORE the blood elves moved horde.
Yeah there are plot holes looking back at it now. But that’s wow lore for you
What I meant is that the original concept that led to the presence of the outsiders in the area was like “blood elves are meddling with something they should not touch”. And their decision to side with the horde was supposedly “whoever will open them the path to Outlands”.
Which does not fit much things before and after, plus even that concept was not really polished in the game. Blood elves are not necessary those who do thing in the “everything be damned” way.
So, those dwarfs and night elves to me are the leftovers of that original concept of twisted / corrupted blood elves, not really seen much in other places. I guess some of those ideas were reused for the early parts of Suramar story.
Key part IMO.
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- you suck hard as race
- Proclaim that its all elf’s fault
Troll lore after first sundering, in a nutshell.
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