Make WSG/AB great again!

I know you guys did improvements on SOD to wsg/ab. I’m not talking about increasing reputation gains. I’m talking about increasing the honor gained from your smaller BG’s. Right now, it won’t be possible to do 500k/week, without just sitting permanently in alterac valley.

Which is a shame.
I would much rather spend my time in AB/WSG, where one person can actually make a differrence.
Please increase honor gains, so the small pvp community that is left, can actually enjoy ranking their characters!

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You realize that if AB/WSG ever becomes comparable or better honor than AV, all you will ever meet in there would be R13 and BWL geared premades with full consumes who just farm you in GY for 10 min as hunter/mage runs their flag or they sit on 5-0 bases.

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No? You would face some premades (and they would win quickly). But more people would queue it, so there would be more games.

At this point there is just zero reason to be sat in WSG/AB. Which is sad.

And I would rather suffer a 5m loss to a premade in AB, than spend 45 mins in a AV turtle. That’s just my opinion!

Also wow is a multiplayer-game. Having bigger rewards from smaller battlegrounds, would actually make people join grps for BG’s. So it would be more social, than just everyone solo queueing for AV.

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From R1 to R11, i think that the longest AV i had was 30 minutes. So 45 mn turtles are not common… Btw that 30mn AV was fun, but i know it doesn’t come into consideration nowadays.

When you need to spend 50 hours per week to rank, 45 min turtles are not fun. It mean that you need to spend 80 hours now, instead of 50. Or you can spend 60 hours and not reaching 500k threshold and your progress will be delayed by another week where you again need to spend those hours.

Blizzard designed ranking system to be affordable to everyone, and mindnumbingly hard at the same time. They are masters of that kind of design, I must admit it. So you have carrot before your nose, you feel that you can reach that carrot, but you need to run really fast.

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5 year old issue that isn’t getting fixed. sorry bub.

enjoy your drek or kek pve avs and dead 8 layer megaservers where the only world pvp that exists is vs level 58 ‘of the Owl’ mage bots running to farm edgemasters in BRS

Honor is fine.

Wsg could use a flag carrier debuff and time limit as well as some honor/rep gain for a 3-0 loss (same for AB).

As for AB some kind of buff that increases honor gains by a % (more ppl = smaller increase) within a decent radius around the flag would incentivise avoiding road fights and going for bases defended by fewer people.

Granted you could probably increase honor gains by 10000% near flag and still some people will fight on the road/away from flag.

But yeah not happening. Have to wait till TBC to play the BG you prefer instead of purely thinking about honor per hour.

Honor is not fine though. I’m averaging anywhere between 15-25k on alterac valley.
I’d be lucky to do 10k with a premade on wsg. Also the queues are horrible, because no one queueing WSG- Everyone is stuck in alterac valley.

So the honor in WSG is NOT fine. :slight_smile:

Here’s my suggestion: make losing AV not preferred way to farm honor. Right now I can lose AV in 10 minutes and get 3k honor or I can win AV in 10 minutes and get 4k honor. Both options are fine to me.

To fix it: remove any honor from losing. You only get honor from winning.

Horde is naturally faster to rush Van, so Alliance can’t win a single game, if they rush Drek. This strat does not work, so Alliance will defend. That turns game into turtle and turtle is very bad honor per hour, even if you win. So more people will play other battlegrounds.

You could see that in SoD. As soon as they made AB more attractive noone would queue again for AV. Bc most people don’t like AV. Only those who also like(d) Tarren Mill and XRds. Killing for nothing.

Id like to see a system where youd get advantage for playing each bg in a reasonable split within a day or something. So if you only spammed one bg youd gain less honor from it until youd also play other bgs or smth or just a rbg overall with rewards worth queing it instead of specific bg

reduce the breakpoints/penalty → 3x418k and 6x209k is the same 1’254’000 required for R13 to R14

you still can get R14 in 3 weeks by doing 418k/week
and grown people who have job/family can get it in 6 weeks by doing 209k/week without losing it all

if breakpoint is reduced to 209k we could enjoy AB/WSG instead of this brainless Drek/Vanndar farm done in 5min and repeat all day

i’m gonna boycott R14 till they reduce the breakpoint to 209k or get rid completely the cap, letting the 1’254’000 being required it’s already enough to farm 1,2million, why make us lose it all if we don’t get 418k in a single week? currently if you do 417k you lose it all, people who do 418k/week are not better at PvP, they are just lobotomized killing a NPC in repeat

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I know where you are coming from, but you know what the net result would be? Me and multitude of others: go to g2g, buy 10k gold, buy my way into full consumes AB/WSG premade, get my r14 I’ve already mentally dedicated my next month to getting.

Nothing is fine in wsg how I heared. Famous jumps and afk with flags, low rep, low honor overall if u dont have druid or bot on steriods u r down.

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I am close to exalted in wsg and I can tell ya that 2.5h long wsg games are quite common nowadays. Especially if you have sweats on both sides. In other words - you think you do, but you don’t

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AB and WSG are only good if u premade. If you queue random into it there is a solid chance that you go against a premade of 5+. and u lose. There is also no honor or rep for getting stomped unlike AV.