Could’ve just let Saurfang end him in BFA at this point.
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They get the benefit of the doubt when they show they are willing to change or take feedback on their writing.
It’s like eating from the same restaurant and assuming this time you won’t get food poisoning after 4 years of it.
Besides isn’t she gonna come back eventually anyway. Maybe we can just pay a few thousand anima for her soul back. That super precious world saving resource… that we squeeze out of bags of dookie.
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It’s really more like eating from the same restaurant and assuming this time the food will be to your taste after 18 years of fluctuating, largely subjective experiences and constantly changing cooks.
But I’m not saying anyone should assume anything positive, I’m saying we shouldn’t assume we won’t like before knowing whether we like it or not.
I would hold off the discussion about my enjoyment of the food, until I can properly taste it. Meanwhile, the only important take away (eheh, got it? :3) here is that story data mining stinks.
I think it’s ok to expect it to be bad. Until we can get consistent enough work that we expect it to be good.
If they show us the worst looking raid ever. We can still expect it to be a good raid because 9/10 the raids encounters are stellar.
That’s my current mood about it.
due to the last 2 expansions. I don’t expect this to come out well.
When you can see into the kitchen (alpha), you might not have to wait until you taste it, before forming your opinion, though, even if you can’t see everything that’s going on in there. Seeing how they cook tells us a lot about how it can and can’t taste.
But okay, give us some positive speculation instead. We have the dialoge that suggests that Malfurion is trading places with Ysera. Assuming that actually happens, how would you like to see it contextualized to be a satisfying story? Note that no one has a problem with Malfurion being willing to do this, but people are expecting to feel this one as another meaningless loss. As it looks right now, Malfurion will be killed (or at least benched), to satisfy the new rules of Ysera ressurection, that haven’t been an established part of the universe before. How do you sell that story to make it feel worthwhile? That’s a genuine question, not a rethorical one.
I’m not going to make up a story of my own, but since you asked I expect this development to come at the end of a lenghty questline involving at the very least the green dragonflight, Malfurion and Tyrande. I expect that questline to establish the hows and whys, and make the event feel like it has weight.
Establishing the rules and building up to the events is the job of the in-game narration, and we’re not taking any glance into that kitchen yet.
We only know they’re cooking chicken, we don’t know how, we don’t know how long it will take, we don’t have the final product, we don’t know the ingredients nor the recipe, nothing. Hell, we don’t even know the cook, given the amount of different people working on the story.
Letting a negative mindset set in already, with so little information, is going to do nothing but spoil a potentially positive experience.
So your whole point is “give them the benefit of the doubt”, got it.
Rejected.
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Or not necessarily rejected… I just don’t have any doubt which could benefit them, really. If this storyline happens, I am sure it will suck, since I can’t see any way that it won’t.
My whole point is forming an opinion about a thing is something that should be done after witnessing said thing and after having the chance to ponder it properly.
“Malfurion dies to restore Ysera” is not nearly enough information to form an opinion, positive or negative.
In fact, I believe this entire business once again highlights the absurd tendency in nerd communities to judge a story based on its synopsis, and to give more importance to what happens than to how it happens and what it means, with the underlying (and equally absurd) conviction that giving us satisfaction is the purpose of narrative art.
Of course, anyone is welcome to negative preconceptions, or to approach narrative media while holding the gavel high and ready, but it’s not my way.
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I can form reasoned opinions on much less.
Now here is the fun part: In my circles I usually have the more optimistic predictions about what’s going to happen. And in the end I’m usually wrong, and it’s worse than expected. 
Of course you can, but I don’t think it’s a good idea and I’m not going to.
Then you really came to the wrong place. Spoiler speculation threads are made for nothing else.
I believe story threads about a particular event are the perfect place to explain how I don’t think we know enough about that particular event to sustain negative opinions about it that have some ground.
Your metadiscussion point is made, repeatedly, and it wasn’t that complicated. You can go now, so the whining can resume.
Sorry little one, I didn’t mean to get under your skin to this point.
“You can go now” lmfao
Nah, just trying to make the “who has the last word”-game entertaining.
Well, entertaining for me, at least.
seriously?! Come on Blizzard! Give the night elves a break. You’ve already destroyed their home but now have to take their Archdruid away?! Why not just give character development to Ysera’s daughter instead? I stuck around for Shadowlands despite the direction of the story but now this is just getting painful.
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I really don’t like this, it feels like another Danuser puts his favoured characters above all else, like he did with Sylvanas. Ysera is not a night elf, why should they have to pay further prices? Malfurion is a bigger loss to Azeroth and for what? A powerless green dragon and likely zero development for Merithra relegating her back to being the daughter?
Danuser and friends need to ask themselves what the point was in bringing back Merithra into the story with BFA just to disregard her for Ysera, Ysera should stay dead and if WoW’s story is to ever be respected, she should remain in the Shadowlands.
Just my opinion though, I’m not digging how the story going so far, I feel like we’re going to get another Danuser classic again with retcons and his favourite characters being the most pivotal characters.
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Well, if you see them throw the poor bird directly into the roaring fireplace you might start getting a bit worried about whether or not it’s safe for human consumption, after a streak of chicken that was burnt to ash on the outside, completely raw on the inside and a salmonella outbreak.
Well, if you really think they can’t cook anything properly in that restaurant, wouldn’t you be better off finding a new one?
I get being disappointed at some parts of the narrative, and I get hyperboles, but if your distaste for WoW’s story is so deep and absolute, to the point you don’t think the authors are capable of doing anything properly, maybe it’s just time to move on.
Useful criticism comes from fans, not from haters. Feedback coming from people in fundamental disagreement with everything about the product, should never be listened to.
For me, WoW’s story is something I overall enjoy and appreciate, despite some disappointments, even important ones. And I’m not going to pretend they never do anything I like just to strike a grumpy pose.
This restaurant is just a small part of a grand amusement park, though. You can hate the restaurant without hating the rides or the people or the events there.
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