Matchmaking is the only real fix for the M+ problem

That is how it is. I wanted to do some crafting stuff today and after I finished, I checked my Vault and I needed one more slot. I had 40 mins, went into group finder for ToP +10 saw a group with a 1.6k leader and thought “This guy will defo take me”.

I signed up and we did the key within 40 mins.

Yeah, but average joe sits very long in LFG, and you’re not average joe, you have 3k rio

Anyway, I have to head to the gym, and then I play click and play games, sadly wow not a click and play game

Bro read the whole thread, the VDH I’m making fun of constantly is also played by me. I’m the average joe.

I didn’t get my score on my own.

Me neither. Honestly. That is why I play Darktide from time to time. And Ishayo is installing Doom.

There was a discussion about this earlier somewhere. I reserve my opinion on this.

Cause I spent last week 3 days wiping 2h each day on CB15. 1st day was fun. 2nd and 3rd not so much. Felt like a raid to be honest.

When your only defense is comparing players to disabled monkeys you’ve already lost the argument.

Fight the power.

Go on YouTube and search “Monkey number test”

I find it funny, when people, who insult others here very hard and show zero charisma/social competence, act as if others were antisocial, because they want matchmaking. Maybe we want matchmaking to avoid people like you, who can’t behave normally and insult others for playing badly?

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Uda has a point though. You got delves, you will get your one button macro and STILL its not enough.
Blizz at one point needs to draw the final line and stick it cause there is no satisfying your kind = give a finger and they will take both arms and still demand more.

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Where did I ask for one button macro?

Honestly my reluctance to play with a premade group grows linearly with how I see ppl in this Forum behaving as well

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You are more than welcome to play however you like. Just remember that every choice has a consequence.

Bro, just like I’m not entitled to soloqueue or matchmaking, you or uda also isn’t entitled to deny it from happening. Only thing that matters is if they want to implement it or not. I don’t need your approval to write my opinion in the Forum

I said you could get in with my VDH. It’s not like it’s hard to get a key going.

You’re acting like we are holier than thou people. I already told you I joined a 1.6k person’s key. That’s the magic of the keys it forms the most unlikely of crews.

:popcorn: :seat:

My approval what? How did we get even here? :rofl:

I have zero setup atm to play PvE. My s1 main is a tank in s1 gear and my PvP char only has honor pvp gear. And I’m not interested in this season atm at all.

After going through LFG in s1 for a couple of weeks, I won’t repeat it before it’s solved.

You don’t need a setup just get in the keys.

I did a +10 with a S1 geared healer recently. It’s on my IO it’s a Workshop.

Good for you, but I was mostly champion geared in s1

Also, I don’t have a problem finding a premade, but I don’t really wanna play this way, and not sure what your invite has to do with the topic

Good for me? More like good for the healer. They made a group instead of making excuses. You don’t need giga gear for a +2.

Next you’ll be saying you can’t get in the keys because you don’t own a koosh ball.

Then you log on, ask around a bit, find someone, do a dungeon, tell them you’d rather play something else now, and then they can continue without you. They’ll do the same.

It’s okay. It’s a game, you don’t have to want to play it all the time. Nobody expects that of you unless they’re very sweaty, in which case you’re probably in a situation where LFG wouldn’t help you anyway.

What these systems do is that they incentivise people to get the easy to find group, and as soon as that happens they get into a dungeon with a bad group after a very short amount of time, and then the dungeon is too hard and they don’t have control of who they’re playing with, and then everybody whines about it, and then the dungeon gets nerfed, and now everything is ruined.

This happened in late WotLK and dungeons were basically ruined until Legion so that’s a good 7 years of ruined dungeons there, and it was only saved through M+ which meant that now running an even remotely hard dungeon came with a timer, which many people don’t like.

It wasn’t really fully fixed until late Shadowlands.

Let’s not go down this road again. We know where it ends.

“Social bubbles” vs. playing entirely by yourself?

That’s a new use of language, but okay.

Then sometimes don’t. Sometimes just play solo or do some RBG’s or some farming or whatever. Playing M+ for many hours straight gives me hand cramps anyway.

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Maybe you like Salami Pizza and I like Prosciutto Pizza. Maybe you prefer to play premade, I prefer to play with matchmaking. Not everyone likes the same Pizza. For ppl that like Matchmaking, LFG is very terrible