Happy for you! Now if you could just stop flooding the thread with your off topic diary entries that only you and your three gatekeeping pen pals from the private Discord server care about, we could maybe get back to the actual topic.
What’s wrong with cheese! Sure we don’t see eye to eye on other things, but can’t we at least agree that cheese is great?
Cheese is indeed great, not to mention Mr Punk over there has diverted his own thread from it’s original topic multiple times.
Nah . People have plenty of challenges in their work irl .
Only ones seek challenge in game are either streamers who make money on it and complete irl failures who think that anyone care about them being good at games
Generał population Play games for fun and some brainrot 
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If only you did those keys with lfg players who you Gate keep out of groups and constant decline instead with discord elitest …
Then maybe we woudlnt have this discusion in first place 
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Yeah that’s why stuff like dark souls is so popular.
Cause the general gamer audience doesn’t like challenging stuff.
Challenges are so well liked player sit down and make there own challenges like Iron man
Thank you.
It was absolute madness. I got into so many groups that my brain was absolutely melted.
I can’t even imagine doing +15.
I hate IRL working. I’m at work right now doing nothing.
I remember you saying you work from home and play WoW, so your job can’t be that hard.
The challenging part of my job is going there each day.
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For some of us m+ is fun though 
you dont have to do them if you dont like them. The portals arent THAT important that you should suffer just to get them. Stop forcing yourself, go do the stuff you find fun instead.
Its easy to imagine. It the point I start cursing Blizzard for not giving me shields like Oracle Priest.
Tried Priory 15, and people die becase of 1 thunder clap and 0.1s later, 1 fireball. Either I kick every single caster to perfection or people die like flies.
If I had a 7M shield I could put people it would be 100x easier. The Thunder Clap would not even take any health from the party, and any damage that comes later would not kill anyone.
I really, REALLY hope blizzard corrects this mistake after the MDI. Cause FFS its getting ridiculous…
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Streamers who fully pug high keys deserve some respect imo.
Those who do them in their cosy static groups are removing half the difficulty tbh of having random people in their group and the problems that come with it. It’s not impressive imo.
The only real skill expression comes in competitive PvP games.
Oh yeah, the “don’t kick everything or group gets damage tick that kills in one tick, ot they just insta die”? What fun,
Oh and tyrannical? One boss wipe, key is dead.
Plus the fact keys are so much harder and so much more unrewarding as tank or healer.
That’s the point of having a static group.
It’s like how Eddie Van Halen never needed to look for a drummer because his brother played drums and they’d played together their entire lives.
Are we going to say Van Halen aren’t a great band because both bros “had it easy” by having a bro who is a legend?
That’s like the band version of being a tank and having a healer sibling.
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As someone who has fully pugged my way to m+ title three times, as well as significantly beyond that. The keys I was doing were nothing in difficulty compared to what organised groups like mandatory are capable of. The difference between the top 0.1% and the top 0.01% is greater than that of the top 0.1% and top 10% in terms of capability.
Put in simple numbers, a 10 is closer to an 18 than an 18 is to a 21. But an 18 will still get you the highest tangible reward m+ has.
It’s a lot harder to actually have musical talent, have a world wide fan base and produce long lasting music that will always be listened too than being good at a pve video game.
You have talent or you don’t. There is nothing difficult about it.
Life is much easier if you’re born with talent and easier still if you have a sibling who is also born with talent. In all aspects of life, the Van Halen example was just a fun analogy.
Dave Mustaine only has sisters so he had to form his own band.
More often than not those who belittle talent don’t have much of it themselves. There’s usually an immense amount of inter disciplinary respect and mutual understanding when those who are top of their respective discipline interact because they each know what it takes to do anything at that level.
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Talent isn’t everything obviously. You will have to practice, you have to write good songs. You have to consistently gig well. You have to interact with your fans well etc etc. your priority is to stay popular in music and make money for as long as possible.
Look at the millions of tracks on Spotify or Apple Music and see only the smallest percentage of music is the most listened to
Seems like you guys have ton of fun there 
Im so glad i stick to my garbage filthy casual +10s and below