You’re proving my point. That’s why gatekeeping is killing M+. “Why take 1k bad if I can take 3k good?” Matchmaking removes that social bullying. you get matched by skill rating. Everyone starts somewhere.
MMR brackets, proper matchmaking encourages participation. People tank when they’re not getting abused daily.
MMR brackets = fair comps = less abuse
The problem is. They dont want to understand. All they see is "me solo dpz, me refuse make friends or do with communities. Zug zug. Signup queues loaang. Me not happy. SoloQ = insta queue for me solo dps. Me happy. ZUG! ".
Hahahaha. Good one lad. Now tell me.
Currently tanks and healers can cherry pick whatever group they want or if its their key then cherry pick the best of the best DPSers.
Versus
Queue in with absolute randoms without any control with whom. Group comp absolutely random. Got full mele for example Top? HAVE FUN! And the soloq will also carry the stigma of being populated by “rejects and leftovers” cause even serious DPS wont consider the soloq.
So go ahead. Tell me. Prove to me that tanks and healers will just flock en-masse to your soloQ. And you better make it entertaining. I got this huge box of 
to eat through!
It would be easier to just put own key in lfg and pick ppl than try change the whole game and have soloq for it. It also need to be taken in consideration that without any other role than tank it will take longer time to form the key so if solo player is not playing tank themselves they just have to accept this that there is less tanks than anything else roles in the game. If dont wish to join some community or network for finding ppl to play with then tank would be the best option to play lfg solo.
Nice theory. You can observe how well it works in practice in PvP.
Hehe. But thats not how it works Aly.
If you set up a bad group = its your fault.
If Blizzard sets up a bad group = its Blizzards fault. I can imagine the whine posts on forums already - “We weee. I waited 2h in queue and got put together with 3 augment evos! NOT FAIR BLIZZ! FIX IT! I pay the sub too!”.
Exactly, pvp is completely in ruins cause soloqs and the mmr system which doesnt work. It somehow worked with arenas but for these soloq shuffle/blitz its outdated and doesnt work at all. Pvp is just completely ruined now.
This some dude said something about adapting I think he got something figured out
MMR brackets doesn’t replace teambuilding. look at it like it gives players the option to play when they don’t have 45 minutes to sit in LFG getting declined
You said it yourself. wow already has solo queues. Add one more. Let people play!
The only positive thing about pve soloq would be that it doesnt cause harm for the already existing teams playing the game and pushing their rating.
My cynical mind can see blizz somehow ruin it for the people playing with their team as well in order to help the ques be shorter or something for that soloq. But for the current system in place in pve it would not harm other people playing with their teams. In pvp it completely ruined every existing old mode and affected people who would want to play with their team etc. Because all modes are on participation based rated system, so whatever mode ppl happen play most becomes the easiest and the rest suffer. Pvp do have soloqs and they made the game worse than what it was before 
In theory you can have soloq for pve too but dont suspect it will be magical solution for not having tanks or healers though, the ques will be extremely long when most tanks and heals already play with some people.
I will need a link for that claim, thank you in advance.
The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. I don’t have to prove anything to you. The fact a lot of people are actively participating in M+ runs is “proof” that the system works.
Already disproven. They do. even when it’s pure chaos and they get flamed. it’s access on demand. Add some incentives and they’ll line up.
You know what is a clown fiesta? LFG right now.
keep munching that popcorn.
SoloQ m+ is happening, sooner or later
forum dweller just hating on it ,
change scares people, especially boomers
I can agree, but only way to affect that would be try tanking or joining some communities and network in general. Those you can do to do something about it today but soloq for m+ would perhaps never come or come in years from now 
Answer this questions
And remember. Your soloQ world doesnt not exist in the vacum. Same rules for all, premades and soloQ.
And you think if you bundle together 5 absolute randos, there will be “less toxicity on tank and healer”?
Oh boy… this is getting better and better. Look. Maybe its time to come down from the “happy unicorn clowd kingdom” and back to hard reality?
SoloQ m+ is not happening.
Forum dweller Axran is just dreaming. Go back to your dreamworld and let other people deal with actual reality.
hahah point proven
i bet you it does happen
Yeah cause things in pvp are so great now after they made everything about soloq’s. Completely killed any participation in arenas and the whole rating tied rewards system just stopped working.
And what comes to soloqs we have 30-50min ques for dps and people with 2 hour time per day have stopped playing the game. People who play healers get tilted from healing random people playing yolo and dying behind walls.
People want to play the game and not sit in some 30-50min ques and blizz had 3 years to do something about it and they still havent. I wouldnt exactly call this progress. I just think it made things worse in general.
I get where you’re coming from. But it wouldn’t hurt premades at all. Just like in PvP it would coexist and the issue there wasn’t queue itself but Blizzard neglecting the other brackets. That’s a dev problem.
As for long queues, they exist now too. Tons of tanks and healers avoid LFG. Matchmaking with MMR would encourage more to queue because they wouldn’t be rejected constantly.
Matchmaking solves the #1 issue. it makes so people can play without begging in LFG for an hour. That alone makes it worth it.
theres 100k people playing soloQ arena
theres 4-5 million players in pve doing m+
even on the law of averages, people are maybe going to wait 5minutes max for a queue popp
What does it matter if the tanks dont que this soloq when they rather make their own LFG with their own key or join other peoples keys or play with the people they usually play with.
theres always LFG still
soloq is an additional option.
there is no downside to it.
Just use your own key. I was in a +10 yesterday where the leader was a DPS and had ~625 ilevel.
I didn’t even notice until during the first boss.