Matchmaking is the only real fix for the M+ problem

[Malikypewpew-twisting-nether]

@Zenoutlaw-stormscale

Try responding to over a thousand posts and tell me how easy it is to give every single point a full breakdown. I’m addressing what I can, when I can, except for the ones already spewing venom and showing they’re not here in good faith.

Yet you have time to personally attack people. Good to know where your priorities are.

@Zenoutlaw-stormscale

Most average players aren’t here. They’re busy getting filtered out of content. That’s why matchmaking matters.

Yet statistics say the majority of the people here, should be you know, the majority of players.

But i suppose your logic is the 1% isn’t doing content, because they’re busy gate keeping the 99% on the forums. And the 99% aren’t doing content, because they’re being rejected, so they’re not on the forums

So who’s doing content?

@Zantria-argent-dawn

According to our friend Zenoutlaw that means you are privileged! Or something…
None of us know what that means since he never explained, we are still waiting for that…

Makes perfect sense … Oh you’re a non meta class not having issues … uhhh, secretly meta or something

[Gloober-aszune]

@Zenoutlaw-stormscale

Most average players aren’t here. They’re busy getting filtered out of content. That’s why matchmaking matters.

What does that even mean? Bad players like my VDH are just listing their own key and blowing up +6 with other bad players.

I had a guy in my +4 tell me to never try +4 ever again. Average players aren’t blowing up their own +4.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

@Gloober-aszune

I had a guy in my +4 tell me to never try +4 ever again.

Ok now I need to see your VDH in action.

[Gloober-aszune]

One of my signature moves is Demonic Leap>target someone out of range>be unable to generate Fury to use Fel D>Die.

Although I got in with some good players and got KSM.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Thats nothing a friend of mine that mains tank had a secret move to die mid meta jump before even reaching the mobs.

[Zantria-argent-dawn]

@Zenoutlaw-stormscale

That’s not the norm. That’s your privilege speaking. You’re the exception, not the rule.

“It works for me so it isn’t broken”

Come on.

@Zantria-argent-dawn

What’s my privilege then? If you call it my privilege you have to explain the privilege?
I’m interested to hear what you will come up with.
Me being meta? My score too high? Playing the best spec my class has to offer?

@Zenoutlaw-stormscale

Yes. that is your privilege.

You’re benefiting from the exact conditions that screw over everyone else. That’s the whole point I’ve been trying to make, and it’s wild you still don’t get it. You don’t face rejection or gatekeeping or being filtered out, not because the system is fair, the system is rigged in your favor.

@Zantria-argent-dawn

I play a hunter. You play a dk, paladin and priest. You have every tool and role available to make this journey so much easier yet you resort to whining.

What did I never have to do? Sit in queue? Work for what I have? When did I play a meta spec? When was BM last meta? Please elaborate and BE CLEAR, because your current ramblings only show that you have absolutely ZERO clue what you are talking about or what I have done to work for what I have.

What is my privilege, don’t dodge the question now. Answer it clear and concise.
Am I meta? No.
Is my score too high? Not for the keys I do.
Do I play the best spec of my class? Nope.

So what is my privilege?

And that’s where we got stuck and our friend threw a temper tantrum and refuses to give a proper answer.
Keep in mind he plays a healer and tank as mains, we play hunters.

[Walkingdrip-antonidas]

You can’t learn that. That’s just peak performance in its purest form.

[Gloober-aszune]

I kept wiping a +6 ToP because I was showing my back to the tank buster then getting hit by the hooks at Gorechop.

Everyone was really nice and acting like it was a mystery and we all just weren’t playing very well. I just admitted it was my fault.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Ok, me, you, dungeon now.

Discord amonet8844.

[Sinaaki-argent-dawn]

I’d come along but I dont have time now!

[Malikypewpew-twisting-nether]

Meh, if you need a DPS, give me a shout on disc maliky552

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Sure’

[Nivdh-silvermoon]

classic goat

[Sinaaki-argent-dawn]

My tuesday nights are bound with my keygroup! Tomorrow I’m free for any forum shenanigans m+ though!

[Uda-uldum]

@Malikypewpew-twisting-nether

And the funny thing about healer meta is that it’s all about how they can buff the DPS to do more DPS, and how much DPS they bring, it has very little to do with their actual healing.

Even now where disc is dominant in M+, i do believe it’s still one of the worse healers in terms of throughput

Not true. And very shallow.

Oracle Preist is OP because it shields people for 100% of their HP. Now 75%.

That is not only throuput, but the BEST kind of throuput. In fact, the DPS a Oracle Priest provides is garbage.

Look at the DPS disc prist does right now:

https://mythicstats.com/dps

Compared to a couple of weeks ago:

https://mythicstats.com/dps?dungeon=&period=1003

Their DPS was not nerfed. What was changed is that most Disc went from Voidweaver to Oracle. Because of the shields. In fact, a druid would 100% not be able to survive in those keys with out an Oracle Disc.

And in lower keys? Well… an Oracle Priest can give you tank level health pools. You can literally step on the fire and survive. Like the last boss of “Motherload”. You step on 1 “micro-missile” and you are instantly 1-shot. NOT with an Oracle Priest. You can literally just stand there and have the whole party eat the missles for breackfast, no problem.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Oh this just got a lot funnier.

[Gloober-aszune]

OP is right. We also need to remove LFG, my VDH has now timed a +10 because of me making fun of him and people here doing keys with him!

The players he got in were way better than pug players so now I look like a liar and he had it easier than I had it!

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Yes but have you considered that “VDH=Meta” ?

Oh and also, you are timing +10s on a VDH? Matchmaking can fix that.

[Gloober-aszune]

Goofing aside, big ups Amonet, Maliky and the players you got in. I thought it would take a miracle to get my VDH into a +10, never mind time one.

All I had to do was make fun of him here and you did the rest.

Thank you.

[Siene-arathor]

Your super elite MDI keygroup?