What happens if you get into a totaly unplayable comp = 2 aug evos+spriest, 3 feral druids, no CR, no Hero.
What happens if 1 guy leaves? Back to the 2h queue?
And remember. Your soloQ world doesnt not exist in the vacum. Same rules for all, premades and soloQ
Easy. Many ways to do it. You can use no key at all or any key in the group can be used, chosen at random or whos got the highest. Everyone queues with a key, one gets used. Done. You queue, get matched by MMR, dungeon is randomized or voted on in the lobby, stakes are fair.
If the comp is garbage then it’s exactly like today only without wasting 45 minutes in LFG begging. It already works in PvP. Apply that to PvE. 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 DPS. Maybe let people set tags in queue. Custom filters.
Matchmaking just needs a deserter penalty and a hit to your MMR.
There’s less toxicity in matchmaking actually! becase people don’t get flamed before their run even starts. You play, you finish, you move on. No manual vetting. No ego. Right now LFG toxicity starts before the dungeon even begins.
And you think if you bundle together 5 absolute randos, there will be “less toxicity on tank and healer”?
Oh boy… this is getting better and better. Look. Maybe its time to come down from the “happy unicorn clowd kingdom” and back to hard reality?
Yes. Because toxicity thrives in LFG. in matchmaking nobody is applying to anyone. No one is powertripping while they handpick the worthy peasants. When there’s no gatekeeper there is less ego and the focus is on playing the game.
I suppose it’s different for everyone. I don’t like dungeon finder and I just level all my characters (who are all tanks) via questing.
I think there is a different dynamic when it’s manually formed. If I invite someone and they play terrible I think “Well it was me who chose this person.” Plus if I play bad people will perhaps think “Well he did choose to have me in his key, I’ll cut him some slack.”
I love getting in the keys with random people because I never know how it will go.
What excuses? So far you are cheerleading “soloQ! SoloQ! SoloQ!” and when me or any other person(for example Uda) who tries to raise possible problems with it or the question will that “soloQ even solve any problem at all”. It gets immediately dusted under the rug, outright ignored or used the “Think about the community” card!
Changes which are looked upon from multiple angles, and potential problem scenarios adressed is something and heck… a change which can be argumented with cold hard logic not some emotional “community maTTers!” Thats something I can get behind.
Simply emotional impulsive changes where all concerns are dusted under the rug and “shut up and just do it! the consequences!”.
I will oppose and I will die on this hill.
Im just always super stressed cause im worried my healing will fail and it will be my fault the key bricked. I find it stressful enough to heal with my friends, i dont wanna put myself through the extra stress of dealing with randoms
Difficult gameplay done with random people we have no info about? What could go wrong?
It doesn’t work for content created around teamplay and co-ordination. M+ is literally conceived to be a mini raid experience for people who don’t want to commit to raiding.
A random group finder will not work well.
I am DPS and I was getting declined a whole lot before I started playing my keys.
You play your key and improve. My class is not meta but I made it work. So can you.
I think in general, a lot of PUG players need to get over their anxiety of bricking a key, yes the chance of everyone not playing perfectly is there, but simply accepting reasonable score people for your level should more often than not lead to a timed key, statistics show this.
I would almost want to bet that over the course of an entire mythic+ season, given two players, one who just posts the key and spam runs their keys, simply accepting some failures and just recouping them quickly, would make progress on their m+ score faster than someone who tries to always get the “perfect” key group, wasting sometimes hours in town doing nothing, the first player gets a higher end score.
Most dungeons in TWW and DF are ~30 minutes, maybe i am optimistic, but the gut feeling is that just blasting and shooting from the hip accepting some dud runs would result in more timed keys overall in a season, than meticulously selecting with everything from parses, to score, to gear inspection, to whatever else people do.
And whats making you “beg” 45 mins?
Want to know how random soloQ will work? Make a test run yourself. Take a +10 key for example, set a setting: min rio 2.2k for example. And invite first 5 people who join and meet the critteria, EVEN if they are 4 warriors+1 holy priest.
Record it and come back and tell us how it went.
This is exactly what I did. I was tired of waiting in queue for hours and getting declined so I focused on my key instead.
It took effort and lots of fail, but the time spent bricking keys made me more experienced and was better spent than just sitting around doing nothing.
Now I made enough progress to join other keys too and it’s going well.
Eh gunned if all these people who believe “soloQ is Godsent salvation to all problems” would use the energy not to scream on the forums but to actually make their own groups…
Have to ask Axran if he can share his . I also want to dream a bit
Exactly, the time will never be perfect, your comp is off, or they were afk for too long, or you think they’re 5 ilvl too low for your liking, or the one healer that signed up is from a server you don’t like, or whatever other excuse people make.
There is no perfect group, never will be, so you may as well just blast, get more experience, even on a 50/50 chance, you’re still better off running 100 keys in a month, than someone who runs 12 keys a month, trying to justify bumping that ratio to a 70/30.
Okay, let’s see it then. Back up your claims and provide us with proof of who in this thread is a known booster that also deals with RMT.
Dont back down now, show us.
I find it hilarious if not even ironic that soloQ will actually open up another boosting market.
“WTS +10 boost. Get your +10s done and season long access to +10s in soloQ!”
“Got into a bad groups and your ranking is down! Dont you worry! Our - recover your ranking boosting service has a huge discount today!”
the consequences!”.
. I also want to dream a bit 
