I’ve read that the M+15 reward from both the dungeon and weekly vault are ilvl 210. While even heroic Castle Nathria gives 213.
I kinda liked the current way of having 475 from the weekly chest. With only full mythic raid clearing players able to attain a higher ilvl (coming from the last 2 bosses).
Can anyone confirm or debunk this please? Cause it has me a bit worried.
Edit: It seems the ilvl from the vault will be 226 when a +14 or +15 has been done that week. I’m a bit sad over the fact that a +15 only has a 210 in the end chest which is lower than HC Castle Nathria.
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10 is going to the maximum key level for reward at the start of season 1, no?
M+15 will be there during S1.
Oh.
Well, +15 gives 226 in the vault according to that.
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In the vault, which has it’s own problems.
I’m going for “its a stupid change”. Devalues even more m+ in favor of raid, after already have devalued it with 1 loot item for the group in total.
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It’s only 1 if you don’t time it. If you time it, it’s 2. At least that’s how I understood what was posted about it.
still way way less then bfa, based on the assumption that more item in the chest will offset this and so far doesn’t looks like it.
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Its Blizzard’s new fetish to make sure that not only are the trinkets from raid going to be insane and or tier bonuses but now the highest ilvl in the game can only be obtained from the last bosses of a mythic raid
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Actually just +14 if you don’t care about the loot from the dungeon chest.
Lol. I can’t believe they made the post the same moment I did mine 
Thanks for linking it though! I’m a bit less worried knowing it’s kinda the same as now then, with just the last 2 mythic boss in raids dropping higher.
I’s not really that different.
The highest ilevel weekly chest will award generic mythic raiding ilevel (as it does now)
the highest drops (15) will be the same as generic heroic raiding loot (which is the case now, actually mythic+15 is a bit better because it drops 465 and nya’lotha drops 460).
So the only thing that changes is that the heroic raiding loot is now ever so slightly better from the last two bosses. That’s it, Regarding how powerful your gear was from the content you’re doing it’s in exactly the same place it always was amongst the rest. It’s just they’ve added a new “tier” of gear that comes from heroic raid end bosses only. Mythic hasn’t become worse, heroic raiding has become better. That’s fine, because slogging heroic raids when it isn’t on farm to get worse gear than 15 keys (which can be spammed and don’t require as much coordination in terms of players)
So if you were able to gear up from the drops and weekly chest alone, at current, including this gear does not make mythic + “pointless” because nothing about the gear it offers has changed except the amounts, it will be slightly slower.
A bit understandable I guess. I mean it’s sign of war this week. When I think of the gear i’ve passed on (as mine has corrupts, or the stats are not great despite higher ilevel) where i’ve run three dungeons today I could easily have had 6-7 upgrades. That’s pretty absurd for something that took me about an hour in total, probably a bit less.
People need to remember,what we call heroic raiding now =/= to heroic raiding in SL Season 1. The fact we can cakewalk nya’lotha because of corruptions and we’re at the end of the game does not mean heroic raids in SL are going to be the same in season 1.
EDIT just seen all heroic raid bosses drop slightly better than 15 EoD loot by 3 ilevel…I mean, so long as the power of the loot isn’t diminished in terms of what power it gives you to do the content, I don’t see an issue with raiding giving slightly more. Heroic raiding was in a really stupid place in BFA, it was almost pointless. Nobody bothered outside of guilds trying to get to mythic tier and a majority of people only gave it a look-in when it was farmable and tradeable.
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Apparently its only one item even if you +3
That’s not what I’ve read. Could you confirm your source ?
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadowlands-mythic-plus-season-1-guide
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This is a good change if true, side content that can be farmed shouldnt award the highest lvl gear.
Maybe this will knock the few down a peg or 2.
True. But being worse than 2 raid difficulties is a bit much.
Not really, again it’s side content and is infinitely farmable this nerf is HUGELY needed.
I think this is a bad change. I know from experience 15s are beyond the capability of most of the playerbase for a while, ie only more dedicated players actually time them within the first 2-3 weeks.
Sure, after 7 weeks it won’t matter much as through the chest options anyone who’s really into M+ will have 6/7 Mythic level items anyway, but the 1st 1/2 weeks will be rougher for M+ players who do little raiding for no real reason IMO.
Again, I’m mesmerized by people who had not 15s until July claiming 15s are easy, but whatever. Hope they revert this change like they did in S4
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I don’t, I really hope they stick to their guns with this one.