Maybe a wild idea how to sorta fix "leavers" in M+

And you respond with even more insults. Also i dont know Uda nor have I done any keys with him. 2nd, not once did he outright insult you. Disagreeing with your opinion is NOT the same as insulting.

So like I said:

so you are a snowflake who gets their feelings hurt because you saw a “rude” post? cool.

it’s about specific people targetting me - you just don’t see it as it doesn’t involve you. Uda is a special basket case of cultism and hatred.

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Love it… 20h… We got phones in the 21st century you know… :smiley:

That is what you got wrong here. ALL the posts above, and YOUR argument, are based on “personal circumstances and anecdotal evidence”. So its THEIR word against mine.

NONE of them show hard data: Completed vs. Incomplete dungeons. And full disclosure, only Blizz has that data. Nobody else.

The ONLY dude I can more or less take seriously in this conversation is OneAzerothTV. That guy exclusively Pugs. AND keeps a record of ALL his runs. So even though his opinion is also “anecdotal” he has the numbers written down of how many disbands, now many untimed and timed keys he did.

Everyone else, including YOU and the posts above… are just that… single anecdotes. 1 time someone left a key. You got salty about it and came to the forums. Forgetting (or failing to mention) that the last X keys you did nobody left.

I never claimed I was better.

All I claimed is that I don’t see these “leavers” as often as other people do. And I refuse to believe that I am “better” than everyone else. Because I am not.

What I can say is that the rare moment I did witness a leaver was when there was drama in the /party. Insults flying here and there… calling people names and stuff… So evidently, people want none of that and leave.

What I personally do is create an environment where calling people stuff is not appropriate. And it all starts by saying “hello” when you join a group. Asking people “how is your day” and a bit of small talk. And when people throw performance comments in the /party I tell them to stop and discuss this AFTER the dungeon.

When we kill a boss, I say “GJ wp”. When someone dies I shrug it off as “happy little accident”… things like that. And people enjoy the PuG group and leave satisfied. Completed or not.

And RIO has nothing to do with this. Its simply applying the same strategies you would use in the real world when you are invited to a party with strangers… Do some small talk, and avoid controversial conversations (politics and soccer). Literally THAT.

Does that make me special or an elitist jerk? NO. Why would it ?

Aka. Everyone who is not my yes-man and disagrees with me? :rofl:

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I seriously just prefer a debate back and forth to somehow improve the idea and not just default to someone’s suggestion to the T. Some of these people have fair criticisms. Plus, I’ve only had leavers in dungeon finder so I really don’t understand the fight here.

Like, it’s rich you’re calling ME a snowflake, when so far nobody agrees with you and you’re throwing toys out of the pram…

right, yet I don’t have alarms set for specific people to jump 2 mins after they post to “bash and insult them and show off my rio” - like the argument with phone is ridiculous - all “forum addicts”, here or not, repeat it - I have phone too but… uh, you gotta keep checking it non stop to be this swift in responses to stuff LMAO. addiction and copium.

“Everyone is wrong except me, the HIGH RIO shaman”

Huhhh. Sure you show off your rio for absolutely 0 personal reasons XDDDD
You dimmer people think that if you don’t say something verbatim it doesn’t count. xDDD

You are the most welcoming and caring person around here (/sarcasm(

Bruh, I hate to give it to you this way but you are the literal embodiment of toxic elitist player that everyone hates to play with even if they perform and I base it on our exchanges so far. You are an insufferable person and I really wouldn’t want to run anything with you because I know your type all too well…
GL with your attitude. Hope you can put the seasonal title on your KFC resume next time. Peace.

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Poor Uda. I don’t get all the hate to be honest. So he’s a little harsh sometimes. Big whoop. Most of the time he’s just funny to me. :rofl:

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And yet here you are. Responding minutes after to my posts.

I will finish that quote for you :

It dosent say “look at my Rio” so you can see how awesome I am. I said : Look me up in Raider IO so you can see my massive list of failures (untimed dungeons) !

With the purpose of “showing off” that I time 1/10 dungeons I do (WHAT A PRO !!! :smiley: ) But that I still complete 9/10 dungeons with OUT LEAVERS !!!

If I wanted to show off my “skill”… it is a super lame attempt at doing so to be honest ! :smiley:

Really ? Did you read the whole conversation ?

You were literally saying : “gogogo swetlords in dungeons are cancer”. And I said “bro… everyone has his way of playing, and if you want respect you have to respect others as well”.

Literally I said : stop insulting people. And I am somehow an “elitist”… BRO… you mad ?

Maybe that is why you have so many leavers in your groups… I would not be surprised.

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I dont know how often it happens. But happend to me 3-4 times i think.
Like some leaves can be bit bs for sure.
For exampel did a mist 6 key. We wiped on 1st boss and 1 dps left and group dissbanded.
Did grim batol and we died a bit on a +4
Key like 2 weeks ago. We had 4 mins left on the last mob pull before the last boss. And the tank decided to alt 4 so group dissbanned XD yeah we would have made the time. But still loot and it was litterlary so close to the boss.
But should be some poll to see how many people have this kind of problems before such system could be or should be implented.

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I love you too ! :smiley:

I try to be entertaining. We should play together one day.

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We really do. So we can do wisecracks together. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

higher key untimed in early season is not really a failure. but if you consider it such you prove my point how elitist you are.
however you are also giga-hardcore so you savor the 5 crests more than your sanity and you finish everything. I don’t blame you I usually finish runs too but it’s beside the point.
But nice mental gymnastics here. You started with your rio to point out how awesome you are but now you are trying to do some damage control that you are somehow humble. lmao.

no, no - I wasn’t saying that. dunno what else I can say.

This is how we can notice low IQ people.
All you bunch assume it’s my personal experience that I get “this many leavers”.
Sure I had leavers - but I hear it all the time from friends, forum users and I think it is a problem on its own. You obviously have to project it onto me even tho I never said I have leavers all the time.
It’s hard for you to do some abstract thinking, I gues.
At the end of the day, I could just leave you stumped after asking - “How would you have felt if you hadn’t eatend breakfest today”.

again, GL with your title. i mean, would be sad if you didn’t get it with the amount of grind you put into it.

cuz I’m uh… already here? uh, i mean? do I insta jump on your topics like you and some other guy do with mine?

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Can you respond to somebody without calling him names and insulting.
Uda even had the patience to explain his views in detail.

And all you can do is “hahaha u badz elitist! Lololol” ? :man_facepalming:

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do you have your own mind or do you get “paid” for being his servant here - like some sort of choir chanting in his glory here. does he really need an aide?

You are making yourself a name of “UDA FANBOY/FANGIRL” here rn.

cringe :slight_smile:

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Dude people hopping on a new topic is no bloody big deal. Forums automatically update if you leave your window open and I type just as fast on my phone as I do my keyboard. Hell, I’m even popping around to other threads.

Like, great, you’re gonna hate on people being fast typers or just focused on one topic…

This is a great way to make your suggestion appetizing to people! Instead of modifying it or convincing people, you’re trying to do slam dunks without the trampoline and missing the mark completely.

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Asking to be respectful to somebody even if you disagree with his opinion.

“hahaha u his lawyer protector?!”.

Ok. Maybe I was wrong that I expected something else from you…

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Don’t make me tap the sign

I will not be respectful to people who are openly and repeatedly disrespectful to me.
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… You guys are getting paid? Okay, Uda, where’s my share of the riches!

And no, I just have more familiarity with Uda than you. So we’re a little friendly. That doesn’t keep him from being critical towards my ideas or post. We’ve been on opposite sides of the aisle on many suggestions.

He doesn’t just do this to you. It’s not personal.

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btw, something that went under most people’s radar - in previous thread when I merely pointed out he never reached the title and technically has the exact same M+ achieves that I do (as my response to him being “better” than me, well he is but it’s funny nyway)… he got that specific post mass flagged by his buds and removed by staff XDDD
Imagine being this insecure.

It was also the only post removed from that thread. So think about it.

Somebody disagreeing with you IS NOT being disrespectful. Its the forums for petty sake. An exchange of opinions. Not your personal Facebook diary where only “yes-mans” allowed. I had people disagreeing with me all the time on forums that doesn’t mean that they are against me, have a personal vendetta against me and etc.

So unless you can directly quote in this thread where Uda had called you names or was outright toxic towards you. So far his only “crime” was that he dared to disagree with you.

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