Mechagnomes & Horde Mains

The playerbase asked for Mechagnomes. Whilst some are happy with them in the form Blizzard is offering, others aren’t.

There is no ‘which one were requested’, there was a request, this is what Blizzard have given the playerbase in response.

And that’s where you’re wrong. This is the same thing as with high elves and void elves. People weren’t asking for Void Elves but I see them as the most popular allied race still.

I don’t agree, I have quoted it several times now demonstrating the lack of any ambiguity.

Much like Blizzard, there is no pleasing people. If I write short to the point reply, it’s wrong. If I write a longer reply it’s wrong.

Then I’m afraid that we have to agree to disagree here.

Are you playing the victim now?

You see, that’s the actual problem here and why we’re in an endless merry-go-around here. That’s why they are so polarizing for the player base. There are two different mechagnome races out there and why the expectation are somewhat… swinging.

That is fine by me.

I actually find you more reasonable than Leafkettle who just likes to argue for some kind of sport that eludes me.

I never argue for no reason. I’ve better things to do. It’s unfortunate that we’ve gone down this road, but I trust that we will have many more and more pleasant discussions in the future.

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I will try to be more careful with my replies to you in future :slight_smile:

How cuute you aree, hahaha

I guess those people who wanted Mechangnomes and are happy, or even more happy with what we got, don’t count?

Or those who did not like the WotLK Mechagnomes, but like these? Those voices don’t count? I guess their opinion is worthless.

What about the graphical updates to characters models? How many of those did you like? Some of those upgrades were quite significant, yet many didn’t ask for them, or like the old models better. Meanwhile plenty like the new models more, but I guess voices don’t matter unless they are on your side. 'Cause that is literally what you are trying to forward here.

What Puny said, is very reasonable. I am so sorry the Mechangnomes turned out differently than you wanted('cause it sure sounds like you are disappointed they weren’t made the way you expected). Another time I am sure you’ll have it your way, and someone else will sit there annoyed they didn’t get what they want.

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Good opinion but because we have no actual feedback from Blizzard to it, it’s hard to say what’s the current stance on them.

This reminds me on the current goblin-issue. The male faces really look generic. However, the “old vs new” discussion died out since Classic has been released and I would appreciate it if they also start updating the older mounts by not gating them behind seasonal events, like the Stormpike Ram/Frostwolf mount.

Of course you do. As much as the high elf fans who are happy with the void elves and the Broken fans who are happy with the lightforged.

No, their opinion counts. I don’t remember ever stating otherwise. Please don’t put words in my mouth.

My only claim is that the number of people who actually like these new mechagnomes is quite low, but I’ll wait until statistics are out in a few months and see if I’m right or wrong.

I’m afraid this is just your own fantasy, which has zero base in reality. I’m not leading some sort of crusade against mechagnome fans. Your voices matter and I’m not interested in arguing otherwise. Frankly, I’m baffled that you’ve somehow reached this conclusion.

Actually, I am merely disappointed that mechagnomes are even going to be a thing. Congratulations to you and the other fans for getting them, but I’ll be blunt and say that I wish that we had gotten something else than them.

It is, so I don’t get the uproar. People need to start speaking for themselves solely when they come with claims. The moment you start talking about “what players wanted”, you are involving a million different opinions. None of us know who is happy with what, and why, or what they would have wanted differently. We only have ourselves, and perhaps some friends.

As for me, I really loved the WotLK Mechangnomes, but I also love the Mechagon Mechagnomes. In fact, I might even prefer them as playable characters.I won’t swap main, but I will very likely make one once I get to it. One of my best friends IRL absolutely love the new Mechangnomes, but then again he solely plays gnomes on Alliance side, so this just gave him more options. He loves the theme overall though.

I just want people to stop saying “nobody wanted these”, because clearly many do. The sentence should really be “I never wanted these”, and perhaps add “…and I don’t think they will be very popular”, 'cause it’s just an assumption nobody knows the outcome of yet. I don’t think they’ll top the charts, but personally I don’t really think Vulpera will either… but I don’t know that.

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We will find it out soon enough when first data has been cached on wowrealms. It’s hard to say how well they will do because they are so polarizing.

That’s all fair and I can totally relate. Things don’t always go my way either. I am still angry at losing Teldrassil, and that the Nightborne went Horde…(and that Blizzard has stopped giving me leather ROBES and KILTS…!)

So yeah… meh.

Does it matter though?

I don’t. I’m just asking you a question and pushing it to the extreme, as you came across as very agressive about it. Or I might have mixed in Leafkettle, though I believe I quoted the correct person?

Oh definetly. I think also old gear should get a grahical upgrade, but resources…

You’ve probably confused me with him, because I certainly never stated anything like that, nor is it my opinion.

Yes, to some degree. Alliance AR are clearly stronger than the Horde-counterparts and they emphasize this push to bring back some players to the Alliance. And given their negative reputation, the developers made it blatantly easy to see how good their racials are. However, will people keep playing them? That’s the actual question we’re facing here.

The KT have shown us that all the effort for that race was for nothing because nobody plays them despite having extreme good tank-racials and a stun on short cooldown. The Mechagnomes are even better for DPS-players but I don’t think many will actually play them.

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So if %0.4 of playerbase prefer playing as a Mechagnome it doesn’t mater huh? Nope, it matters. It means a failure race, it means wasted allied race slot, wasted effort and opportunity. Hence it matters.

The way I see it, it is easier for horde to get a new Mechagnome, considering the racial traits of mechagnomes that could mean more horde coming to alliance for raiding, which wouldn’t be such a bad thing would it? While having to grind rep on horde side would discourage people from leveling a new horde character if they don’t have one, so rather stay on alliance side. Dunno which bias is that?

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