Melee pressure getting nerfed or not?

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i dont understand, ever since df i feel like it has been increase in things like these where i see people like mud called equal to 1700 cause his NA :joy:

i mean its nice if people get to play shuffle i guess but this is just silly when the challengers start talking if also this clueless, now i see 14 year old achievement being called “i used to play at x” like its somehow relevant

mud trolls alot on na so i dont take everything he say so seriously but that clip did show quite easy roll on that priest so it was accurate what he said related the gameplay lol

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smurfing is literally a problem in every competitive game, and most people identify it as such, yes. i am not a streamer. i do not want to be your stream content. i do not want to be a battery for your gold boosts. they should get a real job and stop strip-mining the mid-skill players from the game. there is a whole section of 1700-2300 players that are a rarity at this point, primarily due to streamers and boosters (who are often the same people.) people like alythena, who have never been 2400 before, won’t make it, because they don’t have anyone to practice against other than rank 1s, who smoke them in seconds. if the mid-range players weren’t strip-mined out of the game, he might be able to improve and climb, but because they’re gone, he has been unable to hit 2400 even one time despite playing the game for over a decade and a half, and intentionally waiting for inflation to occur.

you literally go from facing keyboard turners at 1750 mmr, win 4 games in a row and you’re now 1900 mmr and face Jazgg 4x in a row. This a problem. now, im not saying i dont want to ever face gladiators (2400 players) on the characters i am good on, like my hunter and hpala, but i do not want to face them on my warrior, which i do virtually zero rated content on, and definitely not on my goofy alts in that i’ve never done anything on, like my rogue or mage or dk. yet it doesn’t matter. i hit 1800 mmr on my rogue and immediately get multi-rank 1s. the people i queue with are not playing their 2400+ characters, either. we’re playing silly stuff like assa boomkin 2s and at 1600 rating 1850 mmr and queue into joefernandes and a multi-glad hpriest. this isn’t how arena used to be in tbc > legion.

I would be yes, but this is stupid for the same reason it is for higher rated players that want gladiator. “Just come back in 5 months like Alythena and then climb against keyboard turners” isn’t very compelling. I will get my set against rank 1s, like i do every season, then i’ll stop because i do not want to be content or a battery.

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i actually agree with you leeches on something and that is the ammount of high people trolling low ratings

also once again you straight up lie, this is kinda your thing of just make blatant lies and its why nobody cares have conversation with you :slight_smile:

i understand you are upset now that you got called out on your nonsense but making lies up about me doesnt help your cause, i play the entire seasons from start and its very easy to check aswell

also you downplaying me gaining 2.2 or 2.1 in arenas while you self just take 1.8 in shuffles is kinda weak, for the record i did not play against keyboard turners either which you would know if you had any games in actual arenas in df

do yourself a favor and just stop thinking that your 14 year old some achievement and challenger since makes you somehow better than people who play the game for past years, and stop making blatant lies in arguments that are easily corrected by simply inspecting play history, idk man feels just stupid to explain this

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Only for the people who have problems playing against players better than them. Not everybody wants to play high rated, tryhard games all the time. Nothing wrong with playing some low rated games. Get the 12 cr you lost 5 minutes after you lose it and move on.

Hate to break it to you but many, many people stream their gameplay. If you’re so insecure about it, maybe play PvE?

Don’t be playing at a rating where boosting is common then.

If anyone is genuinely quitting competitive modes of content because they don’t like that there’s a possibility that they’re going to be playing against better, more experienced players then I have no problem with that since they clearly have the emotional intelligence of a toddler.

See above.

Pretty sure Alythena spent a large amount of the season just leaving solo shuffle games tanking to triple digit cr at points. He’s also a healer, which automatically creates large issues for wanting to push rating since the system is a disaster for healers.

Doesn’t he help viewers achieve their goals? What’s wrong with that?

Don’t play rated PvP then. You are not the arbiter of how people play the game that they pay for.

Really interesting that I’ve read this rhetoric so much but not once have I seen proof a single time. Meanwhile I often don’t see the multi r1s (in the first week) until the 2100+ range.

Stream content. That’s how it works. Don’t like it, don’t play. It’s rather simple.

Do me a favour, screenshot and show me all the multi r1 DPS players you’re facing at 1800 MMR. Since you only play a few games in the first week, and since you claim you face so many of them, it won’t be that hard :+1:

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i didnt even queue arena past 1800 rating for 7 years straight and im still higher peak than you. somehow you’ve latched onto this as a win, when its sorta like a powerlifter getting out of the game for 7 years and still having a higher 1 rep max than the guy who follows him around telling him he is weak lol

like i said, you can beat me quite easily since you care so much about it - just get 2400 season. i wont even try. the tabard is ugly once again and i won’t push in 3s for glad, so you’ve literally got only yourself to compete against - your own mental, your own fingers, your own skills.

good luck my disciple.

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nah i dont speak of shuffle rating because he doesn’t. i mean his arena ratings. he cares deeply about them because he hasn’t matured yet

he helps 1 viewer by stepping on 2 non-viewers

And you are?

well keep your eyes peeled tomorrow then because you’ll face nothing but multi-rank 1s from 1800-2100 MMR

right. everyone has to agree to be a smurf’s content because they can’t get a job.

sure, or you can just open your eyes tomorrow :wink:

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heh leeches still with this same nonsense calling others higher than him lower than him, try understand 14 years old achievement means jack nothing especially from someone with challenger/rival per season since.

i can easily count how many times i had more than you in last expansion and current on other hand, good luck you too whatever it is that your doing :smiley:

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right you can add up all of your 2100s and reach 10,000 rating too. doesn’t mean you’re 10k rated :wink:

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and you call me a troll :smiley:

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So what?

Nope, but I don’t need to be an arbiter to tell a guy that says he doesn’t like how much the fire burns his hand whenever he puts it in it that he should stop putting his hand in the fire.

If you keep playing despite your constant complaining, then you’re just silly.

Yes, you agree to the possibility of it every single time you play any sort of content with or against another player. & streaming is a job for some, it’s a hobby for others.

I’m not at my PC tomorrow. I’ll look forward to your screenshots facing r1 dps players at 1800, though.

Remember, solo shuffle can’t count since you would also be playing with them and participating in the very thing you proclaim to be against. So, I’ll look forward to your 2v2 and 3v3 screenshots where you’re facing multi r1 streamers at 1800 mmr.

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i bet Thunderson must be so confused with his post, the melee pressure and post uptime just keeps on going, every night theres a new conversation, other than what his asking :joy:

tbf it is kinda vague ask, weird i havent even seen thunderson on the post other than once and the rest is 200 reply from warriors saying warlocks are best class in game. we need a warrior vs warlock post on forum it is clear

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i don’t get you, doublepenetration lover - you’re well aware that rank 1 streamers boost viewers , generally either to 1800 or to 2100, yet you want me to go in game and play a bunch of games and screenshot it happening for proof?

you can’t have it both ways. you can’t say “it doesn’t happen, and also, so what when it does hes just helping viewers!” like bro, is this the sp insanity seeping into your dome?

literally go to any streamer that has vods not behind a paywall, or has a YT channel, look for 2s games, and there is a 99% chance it will be between 1700-2100 MMR. The only person I know who streams 2s above 2100 is Bicmex. Every other person who streams 2s does it while smurfing 1500 rating below their peak.

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hey, his name is double pressure lover, related to double pressure from melees every game, he said it on the post dont just make tos violating assumptions of guys name :smiley:

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hit me up rakar if u need more :slight_smile:

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wdym he is being penetrated by mortal strike and final verdict at the same time. its correct.

is this guy ToS?

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thats very tos, thankfully its not in this game we have minors here to concider :smiley:

ofc it doesnt matter that the average age of player is ~30 as wow playerbase is aging but god forbid we do need to watch our language! it is only important among adult men

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:thinking: did blizard break tos?

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idk this is on the borderline with violence, good there is no blood in the picture

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oh cong y a chadenoque qui répond!

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These threads, or should I say delusional statements, get very boring. There isn’t a curtain of R1s gatekeeping people at 1800 MMR for the fun of it. This is flat out a lie. What happens is that some people are rather bad at the game - and don’t take it as a flame, it’s a direct consequence of playing it very casually - who are unable to get consistently past that, and once every blue moon they face a known player, and make it a rule that all the players they face are copies of him. Be a little more real, that’s not the case. And it’s easy to understand from a purely logical standpoint as well. See, lets assume it IS the truth, that 1800 is a battle against mostly R1s. Lets be wild and assume it’s the case.

Then:

  • if they remain at that MMR, it means they are on a 50% winrate, so people beat them. You should then be able to win. Saying you can’t contradict the statement that they are always here.
  • if they only win and collect points from every “noob”, then they can’t remain at that MMr because when you win a lot, your rating and MMR go up. Again, contradiction, they can’t win it all AND remain there.
  • how come there is a non full of R1 bracket past that imaginary “curtain” ? Did these people beat the R1 mafia gatekeeping you all ? While not managing to get a R1 themselves, which means “while being worse players” ? Again, it should either be impossible, because the R1 curtain stops everybody (if we listen to the masters of the delusion), or it would mean that the non R1 people actually beat the R1 ones. So, why can’t you ?

And it just repeats itself.

Actually, it would be such a simple experiment. You (as it happens I’m answering to you right now, but many people share the exact same deluded statements) claim that you are only, or mostly at the very least, face R1s below 2k MMR, even past the first day of the season. You claim that it makes it painful and unfair to get rewards that should be accessible to you by only facing people like you. Then, please, for this season, do upload an unedited recording, however long it will be, of the sessions you play up until 1800 on a couple characters. I actually volunteer to review it and PvP Check every single player you face, and make a report regarding the amount of R1s and the amount of random 2v2 players. Maybe then we can have peace with that completely illogical, stupid and deluded speech we get every season by people unable to understand that the reason they sweat so much in PvP is their incompetence (again, I lack for a word to convery it in a non flamey way, it’s normal not to be an insane performer when you practise something only casually), and not some hidden R1 mafia having fun and laughs on Discord gatekeeping people a 1800 transmog.

You’re the one who kept bugging another forum user about the Burden of Proof btw. And very luckily for you, I just gave you a way to back up your claim, and a volunteer to sort through the evidence. Go right ahead.

Oh and on a side note:

I can’t figure out whether it is a lie made on purpose for the sake of your argument, or simply a case of pure lack of information (but hey, lets still type the stuff because internet gives a way to express oneself regardless of one’s knowledge). Just from the top of my head, when it comes to EU streamers, Jazggz often played 2400+ mmr over the last season (yes, he also played lower with viewers, both can happen), Whaaz also plays some real 2s sometimes but it’s either during off seasons or during early seasons, the rest of the time he streams 3s and shuffle, Hemmis streams real 2s, Tren streams real 2s, etc etc, I’m not going to cover everyone, examples will do, but you just need to open Twitch, and then you’ll see that you are spewing factually false information. And if you really, really care to check there are websites to access sub only vods that are free, don’t require an account or all that stuff.

Am I saying there is no boosting in low elo 2s (or 3s), or that these people don’t boost ? No, I am not. But you can met these players in the bracket playing seriously, playing to win, and playing high, and it is sometimes streamed, unlike what you claim.

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