Mistweaver spec bonuses

For this specialization, in Season 4, I would like the bonuses (updated) from:

Für diese Spezialisierung wünsche ich mir in Saison 4 die (aktualisierten) Boni aus:

Para esta especialización y en la temporada 4, me gustarían los bonus (actualizados) de:

Pour cette spécialisation, dans la saison 4, je préfère les bonus (actualisés) issus de :

Per questa specializzazione, nella Stagione 4, vorrei i bonus (aggiornati) della:

  • Season 1 / Saison 1 / Temporada 1 / La saison 1 /Stagione 1
  • Season 2 / Saison 2 / Temporada 2 / La saison 2 /Stagione 2
  • Season 3 / Saison 3 / Temporada 3 / La saison 3 /Stagione 3
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for the love of god can we all agree to just bring back our bird with S1 (or at least S2). I don’t care if S2/S3 + vivify was broken, I just want stop hardcasting and overhealing all the time

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Hardcasting arent necesary all time on M+, try to up your versa, Sylfeline, sheilum and ancient teachings up the healing too much and dont need to hardcast except for dmgs like fire charge on ToT or similar

Moruma was clearly talking about raid. It’s a fact that the optimal raid build is the most boring under the sun I’ve ever played in a MMO. It’s one thing to have a ramp gameplay but intentionally overhealing a target to more or less randomly heal the rest of the raid is the most braindead gameplay possible.
Now to be fair most of that build is due to talents and not to tier sets. Yes it was made better by the former set 2 giving a lot of mana and set 3 giving extra cleave heal (even more at random). So even if we get set 3 back (which we will, and I’m sad about) we might not use that dumb build again if the talents are appropriately nerfed and put in line with the Faeline builds.

Also blizzard it would have been great to clarify if we are voting for the original versions of the sets or the changed one after their respective season ended. Because set 2 in particular is completely different to what it used to be during the season. And the new version is boring as all hell.

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I agree that both the spin-to-win in M+ and the “spamheal the full HP guy” are lame as hell but at least we have builds that work and don’t make me hate my life while playing them. MW getting a redesign makes me feel like watching someone fumble with a hand grenade.

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Bring back chi-ji to raids. Hate the current tear of morning build where you don’t even use your dps abilities anymore other than keeping RSK on CD.

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With fervent optimism and a dash of wizardry, I silently plead for the auspicious bestowal of my desired set bonus.

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Agree with Raid healing is boring but it’s better the T1 or T2 that noone play with it?, Until S3 noone play MW except the ones who really like the spect and if u havent a group u “suffer” for doing more than 20’s cause noone want us. MW on S1 and S2 was on the bottom side of the table (on S2 only upper to the Evoker that all players turn into “aug”)

Jumping chi-ji was fun but not have “mechanic” more than pulse 1 button… That need a redesign if it bring back to game

S1 and S2 sets weren’t actually bad, the spec itself was underperforming. They aren’t going to revert the changes that came in S3, so I feel like especially the S1 set could work quite well with the vivify buffs

Obviously this current season set-bonus. The others were useless for a mythic+ perspective.

I personally don’t like the current ‘BiS’ build for the fact its no longer a melee spec, its actually bad to be pressing rsk now unless at the end of a yulon ramp once, otherwise its a big mana spender for 6s of ReM, All the people that laughed in the class discord and wanted to claim the spec was still melee last season, went away when rising mists was no longer BiS. Its nice that a ranged MW spec is viable and really strong, but theyve made melee mistweaver not so great anymore with all the essense font nerfs as well as chi-ji gusts and refreshing jade wind being terrible in raid as well as tear of the morning being super strong. It’s all a balancing act. But for mw, it never seems to be right when making a range vs melee build and having them roughly equal in power.
With regards to m+, am very much enjoying the tier set, it feels really strong and reactive compared to other sets in the past. I’m very happy to see this set go into season 4, but the main issue people have isnt a “set” issue, but more a talent balancing issue, which hopefully will be resolved.

You can play chiji in raid it’s steadier heal vs burst heal profile of yulon.

I prefer to not get into meele and play from outside as a range healer. It’s called to have a choice :wink:

I’m not voting. cuz we take the work out of blizzards hands. its nice to ask the community, yes. but i played DF where the new dungeons… its like i play wow classic. its like playing CoD or assasinscreed. same game diffrent color.

This is a very one-sided vote - it’s obviously gonna be s3. In s1/s2 I spent most of my time watching the queue and a string of declines before eventually playing other games, in s3 I’m invited to every group I join and it made my playing MW very enjoyable.

I know that this is because they also re-tuned MW, but Chi-harmony is just a fun mechanic where you need to pay attention to your RM if you want to be efficient at burst healing.

I would love however that instead of TOM builds being 100% for raid, a fistweaving build would be made available = that would make a huge positive impact on raiding experience (right now I dont even bother puttting BoK / RSK / TP on my bars).

TBH my only dislike towards the raid build is that to maximize your HPS you need to spend 2-3 GCDs on someone then commit to them even if they’re near full and someone else just dropped to, say, 10-20%.
I think most high end monks (who make my parses look green) just focus on pumping and have the other healers “chase damage” and save people.
I’m not saying this is necessarily bad since I’m all for class diversity, just venting my thoughts.

You lose that choice when progress raiding. No one uses chi ji builds for Tindral and Fyrakk because you lose out on insane amounts of HPS.

On early bosses and Nymue you can use Chi-ji, but it’s because they’re not as HPS intense as other bosses.

Progress is done. Echo won. Anything after that is not a race. Just getting it s done somehow and waiting for nerfs

It’s sad to see that people only blindly vote for “which season my spec was the strongest”.

Yes the season 3 is overturned but so are all sets on classes that have weak talent trees (Mistweaver being one, and why it wasn’t meta this expack, as always).

Honestly season 2 was overall the best set (on launch) because of the infinite mana. In any case all 3 sets are quite poorly designed in my opinion simply because they are all tied to casts and have no interaction with melee combat. The only interaction is set 3 if you have the talent applying renewing mist on Rising sun kick cast … waw … thrilling. I mean it’s not bad but Ancient teachings doesn’t target people with the buff necessarily so yeah the caster build is way stronger.

I really really really hope that whoever are in charge of designing Mistweaver content will realize that we cannot care less about Essence Font and we need more interaction beyond “Get overtuned if you press renewing mist”.

Also I hope that they do remix the set 3 for the next season (since it’s clearly winning) and make it more fun/engaging because right now it’s mega hard carried by the 2 pieces bonus and the 4set is just cute I guess but doesn’t do a lot.

I would love for the 2set to be very heavily nerfed BUT instead bring back the original design which applied the buff on renewing mist bounces on top of applications. That way we play more with the 4set effect rather than the 2set because right now the set is just “put the OP buff on target, funnel all the heal, overheal, change target, put OP buff on new target, rince and repeat”. It’s … super boring.

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