I have, people can log on with each Warcraft account, there you go. Also, I made the Pay to make it easier argument.
You cant do an ah scan while being in a bg without paying. Being able to do so gives you an advantage. As such, it is pay to win
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Also pay to make it easier is initself pay to win, so ty you gave me another example of how multiboxing is pay to win. And incase you forgot the definition of p2w, its any form of payment that gives you an advantage or advances you in the game
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Again you are not winning. âpay to winâ is another thing you need to go and look it up.
That is not true, pay to win is paying to skip content, these people are not skipping it, they are multitasking.
Yes it is true. Google the definition of pay to win. Litteraly first result in google: Pay to Win means just that - every time you pay you get closer to winning, because items or content purchased give you a very perceptible power increase
I canât seem to get through to you so Iâll leave it for someone else to try.
Thats because you are living in denial. You have a delusional and flawed view of what p2w means.
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Good counterargument?
Oh, moving the goalpost.
I find it hilarious that the multibox hate has grown to the point where people are starting to just getting guilds to mass report abuse multiboxers that arenât even doing any lotus farming, buddy of mine was making gold TO BUY LOTUS CAUSE HE CANâT FARM ANY by boosting people through BRD for HoJ never seen more entitled people complain after he gets them a HOJ that heâs some kind of multiboxing loser and that his guild will mass report him people are really losing their marbles way too hard.
Should blizzard have allowed it? probably not, no. Plenty of pservers banned it for good reasons other than the ease of access to new accounts without sub costs.
However plenty of other pservers didnât ban it and found workarounds or fixes like adding a variable timer to lotus spawns rather than a reliable 2 hour spawn timer paired with a tiny reliable 30 min spawn window.
while I agree with you mostly, in PvP multiboxing should never be a thing, thereâs not much you can do against 5 warlocks chaining death coils and filling your debuff slots. I donât care about people using it to speed up their juju/eko farming, I used multiboxing for that on pservers too and itâs just less time required to farm, thatâs all youâre paying for, everyone else can join in on the group and also get their ekos so it barely affects a thing on PvE servers, however.
people have been really mass reporting multiboxers when there are still botters out there, rather than mass report the botters people are now getting really upset at multiboxers, even to the point that instead of actually teaming up for eko farming on PvE servers players would rather put each other on ignore and spam general chat with accusations that guild X has botters and guild Y has cheaters, people probably always were but really are showing themselves to be a bunch of babies lol
spoilers: the guy with 2 accounts probably isnât locking down your lotus spawns my good children, maybe youâre just bad at figuring out a good lotus focussed herbing route, you should all think about how many high end players use a 2nd account to reset instances and play the AH while in downtime on flights or being corpse camped. There are simply too many advantages plenty of top end players all multibox to some extent tho probably not all of them will bother to set up input broadcasting/follow macros for those multibox setups that result in 1 player getting 1 shot by 5 shamans doing earth shock
Yes I believe this is a true statement. This is what it boils down to. I would like to add ignorance to the list.
Oh, moving the goalpost.
Yes I did , sorry for that.
The arguments are mostly about putting labels on things to make them look bad. If someone claims boxing is âautomationâ or âpay2winâ or whatever, I say no it isnât.
It is pointless arguing about semantics.
Im sorry you and no one for that matter still have not come up for a good argument as to why it isnt p2w. P2w means pay to get an advantage. Multiboxing gives an advantage.
Thereâs not much you can do in 1v5 regardless of how many players are controlling the 5. If anything, your odds of beating the 5-man multiboxer are better than your odds of beating the 5 actual players.
Well, straight you canât multibox in BGâs there is no /follow function⌠and secondly are you putting people who run two accounts without any interplay between said accounts as âmultiboxersâ because thatâs just straight up incorrect. Because what you describe here is a solo player who has a smurf/alt account depending on terminology you want to use.
youâre comparing apples to oranges, but are genuinely too dense to understand that, even big daddy blizzard has stated several times that multiboxing gains no advantage compared to having a group of people perform an action.
Also you are aware that if one person is controlling 5 accounts / 10 accounts /40 accounts, what ever he only has one set of hands, a limited number of key binds and can only perform once action every GCD the same as everyone else⌠if he moves a character forward. They all love forward, if he presses 1 on his action bar, every account presses 1, you canât change what people do mid encounter. You canât dps and heal effectively at all. Maybe 45-70% effective at best. On all accounts. He canât frost bolt and interupt you at the same time unless he has set it up to have one account do nothing but spam interupts
They only have one person, you only need to out think / out play one person, now I understand in your case thatâs a big ask, but for most people⌠itâs not that hard.
having 2 accounts gives you an advantage over a player that has 1 account. That is undeniable. you are paying for an advantage => it is p2w. STOP with the mental loops. also for someone who claims to be a multiboxer, i find it absolutly hilarious that you donât even know what multiboxing is. multiboxing is playing multiple seperate characters concurently. So yes having a second account online in stormwind is just as much multiboxing as having a 40 man setup using broadcasting software or external hardware.
Iâm pointing out that having a second account is normally not referred to as multiboxing. Mutliboxing refers specifically to the act of playing multiple accounts at the same time with inputs being mirrored across them all.
If youâre going to be pedantic, you might as well be correct. And questioning me on the basics of it and wether or not I multibox is hilarious. But I guess your life exists in a world where what you think is fact and everyone else is just wrong.
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it does fit the definition of multiboxing. just google it. Again showing that you are completly clueless, donât even know what multiboxing means: Multiboxing at the most basic level is simply having multiple characters, and pressing buttons or clicking in each game window to move or activate abilities as if you were actually two individual players. taken from isboxer wiki. And again being at auction house while doing bgs can only be done by emulating being 2 individual players. Now sure you can chose to not believe my take on the matter, but isboxer is pretty much THE reference when it comes to multiboxing.
Is that what are you using when you are multi-boxing?
Its what is most commonly used