Multiboxers everywhere

I just got nuked by a multi boxer. He hits one button and i die…

Dogata:

yes its allowed to use… :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve experienced the feeling of loss that occurs when another player reaches a herb before I do. On more than one occasion I have been gathering herbs whilst doing world quests and found that just as I got to the herb another player controlling many druids would fly in and take the node away from me, and as I moved on to another one nearby, they would go there too and get it faster than I could.

To deal with this situation I suggest installing the GatherMate2 addon and getting BFA node data

Read the following thread for details of how to do this

The important thing to do is to get the following three addons

GatherMate2
GatherMate2_Data
WowGatheringNodes

You need to do a little bit of set up once you have these three addons installed.

You have to go into the addon settings and import from GatherMate2_Data

Then import WowGatheringNodes

Once you have done that, you will see bfa nodes on your map.

So the next time you find another user getting there before you do, just go to another part of the map.

multiboxer is pay to win system , and blizzard can u stop that pay to win system

It is true that blizzard can stop multiboxing.

To say that multiboxing is a pay to win system is a mischaracterisation. Multiboxing is an expensive and difficult playstyle, that will unfortunately expose you to denigration.

However if you feel that you are curious about it, there are others that do it and will be able to help you, search around on the internet and you will find them, be wary of scams, make sure that you do lots of research.

Make sure that you understand what you can and cannot do. Do not under any circumstances use 3rd party software that facilitates automation.

While you are multiboxing, make sure that you are present and watching the screen, tapping the mouse or space bar with your toe as you watch tv is a bad idea, though it is your body and your choice what you do with your free time.

The thing is that if these players are paying more money than you. So Blizz is going to prioritise them over us. Its all about the money.

Maybe if we all felt so strongly about this we could all unsub at the same time, until they listen. And believe me if we did that then we would have their undivided attention. though I can’t see people feeling that strongly about it to do that.

Exactly.

The fact that a minority of people use something for good ends/neutral ends does not mitigate the fact that thing is a problem if the majority of those using it use it in a way that disrupts others. It’s just an unfortunate consequence that the “benevolent users” are caught in the crossfire. But from a “dealing with the issue” perspective, it certainly is easier to just deal with the method by which they’re doing it as opposed to parsing each individual case and only actioning bad users because there are too many blurred lines involved and it requires a lot more continual application of manpower.

This said I don’t think blizzard will change their stance, because for those who do use it “benevolently”, they have spent real money to do so, and to null that on the basis of others behaving badly seems unfair. It’s not like having multiple copies of WoW has applications beyond WoW, so to allow people to purchase them and then outright ban one of the principal reasons for doing so seems like a bait and switch.

I think at this point the only thing that can be done is to toggle with gathering to make it so multiboxing confers no advantage in harvesting nodes. What exactly I can’t say.
Same for dealing with standstill farmers, but I don’t see a solution to that that doesn’t disadvantage single-players trying to farm for several hours as well- except the difference is an MBer can literally tag every mob that pops whereas a single player struggles to do so.

Maybe somethin changing with how mobs are spawned, so blizzard stops creating condensed mob locations and spreads them over a wider space, so you kill the effectiveness of the standstill boomkin/hunter farm because in sticking to one spot, they get maybe 2-3 mobs regularly, but there are others over a wider area?

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There seem to be to conflicting accusations levelled at multiboxers.

  1. They pay to win and provide blizzard with more money by paying subscription fees, so blizzard like them and wants them to stay so will not ban them for that reason
  2. They generate massive sums of gold for themselves and sell it for real money, blizzard don’t care about this

Which one is it? Both?

I would like to know if this is true, because I have no reason to believe that it is.

I’m loathe to ask for sources, but may I ask upon what you base this assertion that the majority of multiboxers are doing bad things? If this is the case then I think the bad things they do, not that they do them whilst multiboxing is what should be focused on.

I multibox regularly and I’m not convinced that there isn’t enough man power to deal with individual cases, as I am frequently messed with, although these things might be automatic, I tend to think there is a person messing with me and that at certain times of day they are sleeping.

By “bad” I don’t mean purposefully, I mean they behave in a way that has outcomes that can be negative such as economic disruption/resource hogging.

I don’t have any direct sources to draw upon- but I think it speaks volumes that the predominant encounters people have with multiboxers are druid flocks herbing more so than anything else which lends some form of credit to this suggestion, even if it’s not outright proof. In other threads a couple of well known multiboxers even made it clear they believe this is the case as well.
Multiboxers wouldn’t receive routine vitriol if a majority of them were not causing any fuss in such ways. If a majority of them were indeed just “going about their business” and paying mind to how they affect others, why on earth would other players bother them outside of a few pvp victims? Yet as you have said, you receive routine negative stuff from players (which I don’t support i’ll add) and this comes from somewhere. I think it’s implausible to suggest that there is some kind of weird player conspiracy to harass multiboxers with accusations only a small handful of them engage in. The WoW playerbase as a whole doesn’t have that kind of coordination- and yet there is a general impression that multiboxers tend to more often than not engage in stripfarming and raw gold farming. Where has that perception come from so as to be so widespread if only a tiny amount of multiboxers engage in said behaviour?

It’s not secret that you can “pay back” your multiboxing debt through use of tokens and the best way to do this is to farm aggressively so it wouldn’t surprise me if even a slight majority of the people multiboxing do engage in some form of either standstill farming/raw gold farm or resource strip-farming to acheive this, and these things however neutrally they are intended do have disruptive effects on other people by depriving them of access to things (mobs, resources) through means another players has only achieved by putting more money towards the game.

As said, I don’t believe blizzard should stop multiboxing because people have paid real money into it, and it’d be a bait and switch, but I do think that trying to reframe the situation as one where it’s only a minority of multiboxers who do this, and all the players who perceive it as otherwise are wrong is perhaps missing the point.

As said, I have no firm proof of my perception other than the continual slew of anecdotes you get on the matter. I could similarly ask whether you have any firm proof the converse is true as you seem to believe. I don’t think either of us will be able to provide it in each case. So whilst we may not know exactly how many multiboxers do what, what we do know is:

  • There is a widespread percetion by the playerbase that multiboxers as a majority do so for purposes primarily to farm/gather
  • There are multiboxers who do this
  • There are multiboxers who don’t do this

That’s what we know for sure. If the first point is true (it is), then it stands to reason thatthe second point is probably a larger group than the third, unless you’re suggesting people have reached the conclusion of point 1 for a completely random reason. All things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the best one until firm proof is arrived at. In this case the simplest explanation as to why people believe “most multiboxers farm/strip gather” is because most do, as opposed to people believing that because “they hate multiboxers on principle and so have drummed up a massive wave of consistent support to such levels that a majority of the playerbase now believes it even when physical evidence is absent”.

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