Dear WoW developers,
i dont understand how you keep allowing this to happen. Its a clear violation of the terms of service.
“… any code and/or software, not expressly authorized by Blizzard, that allows the automated control of a Game, or any other feature of the Platform, e.g. the automated control of a character in a Game”
Yes i understand that there is a player behind the computer manually controlling all of the accounts, and its not technically “automated”. But thats a clear loophole in the terms of service. Because those players use a 3rd party software in order to control multiple characters at the same time.
And please dont give me an argument that …this technically is the same like playing with friends and family in a party/raid. NO its not.
It violates the player experience of everyone alse who decides to make use of their profession. It ruins the economy of the server. It allows forming cartels and monopoly over certain crafting materials. On my server nowdays there are 4-5 multiboxers 24/7 farming in Nazjatar. Yes some of them are playing 24/7. Wich is probably due to account sharing. Instantly depleting a herb/mine node in one click. Those people made so much gold in the last month, im pretty sure they can pay for even more accounts and also freely reseting the market of a selected crafting material if they want. The price of Zin’anthid is 80g atm and cant drop below 60g before someone reset it again to 80g.
Please revisit your Terms of service and forbid the controlling of multiple accounts at the same time in a single PC.
Im perfectly happy if people gather make a guild and go in squads of 20 to herb and essencially do this as a way of making money and playing the game. But thats fine. Thats part of the game. And most importantly thats tied to everyone’s time spend and investing playing the game.
A multiboxer speedup that process 10+times . There is one thing we dont have unlimited and thats time.
Multiboxing is unethical, it feels wrong, it affects people gameplay experience in negative way.
There are people making excuses and trying to justify it for their own advantage with realy bad arguments… and im sure there will be some of those in this topic.
I feel like BFA is already done deal and … pretty much we are stuck with the current reality but i realy hope there will be some changes regarding this big problem in Shadowlands. Maybe a more simple gameplay solution… give back the single herb /mine nodes… first to click first to loot and adjust spawn rate and the material costs of the new crafting recepies to reflect the rarity of the material.
I personaly wanted just continue talking about this problem so i will not argue with anyone. But feel free to support/disagree the topic. Im pretty sure soon there will be another one like this one anyway (because its a problem!).
Unlike other people posting daily threads about multiboxing, you seem to actually understand that multiboxing is not a violation of ToS and perfectly acceptable by Blizzard. I can symphatize with the frustration and acknowledge how you personally feel about it, but there isn’t really a point to that particular discussion, I don’t think Mr. Blizzard browses the forums and will reconsider ToS policies because you made a exasperated thread.
So what I would actually like to address is this:
So your realm has people doing super efficient around the clock acquisition of a commodity. You believe that is a problem and drives prices of that commodity up. And by making it impossible to acquire the commodity in a super efficient manner, that will drive the price down. I don’t think that’s how markets work. If you outlaw boxing, there’s less Zin’anthid on the market because it won’t be gathered as much. That wouldn’t drive the price down, it would drive it further up.
Multibox gathering isn’t ruining the economy. Quite the opposite. It is the thing that is keeping the economy afloat. You are vastly underestimating the volume of consumption for Zin’anthid and other raid materials on a well-populated server full of raiding guilds and vastly overestimating the dent a single person can make in that volume of consumption just by flying around gathering herbs. If you outlawed multiboxing, the markets on large servers would crash overnight and so hard that it’s hardly imaginable. You are right, Zin’anthid wouldn’t be 80g. It would be 500g or more once people burn through their stock. And the people with the largest stock of Zin’anthid in their banks from before the ban would become the 1% holding 99% of your server’s gold in their pockets - you think you have a cartel and a monopoly now, just think about the ramifications of that for a second.
I would agree with you if the people multiboxing were actually from my server, however in nazjatar in my server (which is a medium/small server) there are 24/7 multiboxers that come from other servers, usually english and russian ones, and this wrecks the economy in my server.
I am trying to farm zin anthid and can find 0 nodes becasue people from other servers are depleting the nodes on the map, this leads to little zin anthid in the AH, high prices, and then these people are going to make massive gold by selling the herb on their own server. thus violating this time terms and conditions of WoW. As long as it’s multiboxing on your own server no problem, it’s the ones that come on other servers i have a big issue with.
I did not play in a while at Wow retail, back in the day, in case of server hoping, you were only be able to sell to your own AH and can’t exchange goods with characters from other servers. It was changed in BFA ?
Edit : Nevermind, they could server hop with a third person. I was thinking about that because, back in the MOP to Legion, i was multiboxing using 5 chars splited accross realm (not really for ressources, but that way, i could travel at will across realms -like french server, english server, RP, PVP …) but i think they dont work like that.
Whatever the effect on herb prices when you outlaw multiboxers would be, at least then you would have a choice. You would be able to actually farm herbs yourself without nodes that instantly deplete. Now this is nigh impossible.
Be it 80 gold or 500 for ONE herb, both prices are insane. If you are on a smaller realm the only choice now is to grind your teeth and farm for hours on end to get some stacks because prices will be high regardless.
Stuff paying 80+ gold for a herb. What do you think that would do to prices of other consumables?
You also have to take into account that Zin’anthid is only available in ONE zone. If that zone is continuously dominated/overwhelmed by multiboxers you basically have a monopoly. If anything, this can be regarded as (extremely) disruptive gameplay.
Stuff like this really saps the will to play this game. Especially when you are raiding and doing M+ and want to bring your A game, meaning you use flasks and pots.
Maybe the problem isn’t as much multiboxers, but more the situation where ALL the best/latest consumables require Zin’Anthid and there is only ONE zone where this resource can be gathered. This can never be a good mix. It’s just bad design, just waiting to be exploited somehow.
Wholeheartedly agree multiboxxers should be banned, as an alternative just allowing one account to be active (in game) would be nice.
or just banning the accounts that do that would be fantastic. And returning all their gold to the AH or just confiscating it.