I’d like to see Ferocious Bite reworked, dealing much less damage but increasing tick rate of bleeds on the target and decreasing their duration.
Make Rip being stackable like affli’s Unstable Affliction is/was.
Baseline Innervate and Bash.
And LotP but maybe with nerfed crit chance to not make feral super mandatory.
that would fix our utility problem in PvE but for pvp i would add natures swiftnes to use 1 instant cyclone every 2 minute .
no need to do that make sabertooth 25 % execute and make jagged wounds passive baseline .
The biggest problem i got with feral currently is the new resto affinity the swiftmend requires 1 hot in order to use it , so for example on live i love it cause i can press my panic button to outheal abit of rogues damage but on PTR i cant cause i need atleast 1 hot lets say rejuv , it feels like a punishment cause everything is on GCD and now more GCDs on top which nobody wants .
exactly thats how it should be . i still dont understand why rogues get 0 nerfs on their evasion or cloak
But still i think bleeds need like 30% buff ingeneral , feral shouldnt be only about big shreds and bites makes the playstyle boring and repetitive which nobody wants . we want our bleeds to feel important.
But what i want the most of all is “GCD of forms” and reworked level 35 tree instead of bash roots and hotw , bash should be baseline for feral , mass roots for guardian so he can kite , vortex for resto and typhoon for boomy so if you get that stuff done you have only Heart of the wild in that row , so i would add old MoP treants there that put rake per treant so lets say max is 3 treants you could have 3 rakes and your rake on your enemy and natures vigil so while we burst we can heal ourselves through burst … there are so many ideas that can be used but blizzard just ignores its so sad…
The change to Berserk has definitely fixed a major issue. The new version might not be perfect but it is definitely miles better than what we had so far.
Blizz has done reasonably well with Feral, much better than I feared. In my view, there is only a few things left to do:
I could think of more but these would be my main points.
From a PvP perspective:
I don’t disagree with this list as such, but I think some things could be added/changed:
Feral has potential. Thats all. Our St dmg outside Convoke the Spirits or Berserk ( only first 10 secs because after that we wait 2 secs to even cast a shred ) is SUPER LOW.
That said, the specc plays almost well, we just need Bleeds to actually do DMG, a bit more energy regen ESPECIALLY INSIDE BERSERK ( rogue`s vendetta not even that is more powerful, it also gives some energy back over x duration like wtf … )
And feral sadly got the middle finger so far from utillity PoV . Its insane how Stamp roar was made baseline for all specs and balance even got the Typhoon baseline wich made them super strong with utillity.Feral 1000% needs some sort of utillity added to the kit BASELINE.
And seeing that Balance got a cool talent baseline … maybe its time to Spice it up for feral … Give us something … make Feral Frenzy baseline wich can give us some ST dmg … Change some of the talents … buff many of them since we have to go for the same boring passive talent choices ( some of them had been buffed and still very weak )
Well Blizzard thinks Maim is our great utilitiy ability. imo that says a lot.
Nice shadowlands date got released and feral still not fixed , this devs really need reality check .
Yeah, that is really annoying. In particular since Innervate and Treants are not insanely strong, so why not give it to Ferals? Meh.
They need to fix level 35 talent row and remove affinites , remove GCD of forms , make Leader of the Pack,innervate and mighty bash baseline also buff every feral bleed by 30% + on top of that make thrash apply infected wounds which is 20% slow and it should be reverted back to 50% i am not having this , rogues can spam poision knife to slow people from range and feral cant have an aoe slow with thrash? cmon blizz
I’d prefer it if they just moved Infected Wound back to Shred again and increased it to 50%.
New wowhead post just came out
“Just like the Raid Buff Scrolls, the Unstable Temporal Time Shifter has been level capped at 50 in Shadowlands. This means that once you start leveling, you will no longer be able to use it…”
So that means they are promoting meta classes like mage ,warrior ,priest and DH
amazing design . how about you give feral what we are all asking for , something to bring to the table in raids and m+ so we feel unique and usefull for being a “Feral Druid”
Look at this :
If you want a Brez, you have to choose a Death Knight, Druid or Warlock
If you want 5% Stamina, you bring a Priest
If you want 5% Attack Power, you bring a Warrior
If you want 5% Intellect, you bring a Mage
If you want 5% Magic Damage, you bring a Demon Hunter
If you want 5% Physical Damage, you bring a Monk
If you want Lust, you bring a Mage, Hunter or Shaman
so they are going with classs buffs now is the time to bring Leader of the Pack baseline for feral since we dont have any raid /m+ utility other druid specs can provide
I already gave lengthy Feedback in several Betaforums but Feral is Dreadful atm. People were hyping the new berserk until they realised that the reduced energy cost is gone and that they Cannot press ANYTHING for half the time. You sit in Berserk and you WAIT for the energybar to go up while your bleeds run out. having full combopoints you, of course, dont refresh the bleeds, no, you wait until 50 energy to use bite, then you wait again to apply bleeds anew.
Its even worse than the start of BFA. We bring nothing to the Group, while Frostmages bring buff, QoL and double the damage. No, this is no joke. I tested Frostmage, i never played it before and i did double the damage with worse gear.
I guess they count BR as our unique utility, since this list is entirely based on classes, not specs. That would be a valid point, if our utility wasn’t a strict subset of what Balance or Resto bring. So this again cries for closing the gap by giving Ferals Innervate/Treants.
Then it would truly be “Bring a Druid for X” and not “Bring a Resto/Balance Druid or live with a subpar toolkit by bringing a Feral instead”.
i just want feral to have its own unique utility so we feel usefull to the raid team or m+ team
First of all: Feral is NOT terrible. We’re not terrible right now in BfA, we don’t look to be or become terrible in SL.
That said, it would be nice to have some Druidic uniqueness in SL. One of these could be that we had a passive buff which enhanced HoTs and DoTs. Or we could bring Fairie Fire back (in it’s final iteration, it debuffed 5% armour and blocked the target from stealthing).
I think the FF idea is the best, because it also allows a counter to intelligent NPC play. Used it a lot in TBC, where mobs could and would stealth.
Sorry to break it for you but we had leader of the pack baseline in TBC and that’s what I’m asking for in shadowlands not just that but in wotlk we had it for whole raid
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/dps-rankings-tier-list
If this guy is to be believed, Feral does not look good as far as raiding is concerned.
I quote: Feral brings low-mid tier single target damage at the moment, which is where it should be strongest. The bigger problem as well is that Feral DPS are melee, meaning your space in raids will be limited anyways. At the moment, Feral Druids lack the utility and damage output that other melee offer, making them a tough sell when melee spots are so tight.
So Blizz, if you don’t unprune us, at least tune us!
Break what for me? I’ve mained my Feral since patch 1.8, so that’s 15 years. I know every iteration of Feral, every spell that we’ve had.
And during those 15 years, I’ve been very critical with Feral design, when that was relevant. It isn’t relevant right now.
ah great thanks. so everybody calm down. Whitepaw says we are fine, so everything is in best order.
thank you.
Well we failed , it was a good try , today my guild annonced that feral is not welcome in the Mythic castle tier due to have notting to bring to the table utility wise and any other melee outpreforms us . Again another BFA 2.0 uldir looks like i will vote with my wallet i had enough of this BS for 2 years in bfa i wont go another 2 . We gave feedback yet nobody listened oh yeah they will fix us in next 3 expansions probablly . Thank you everyone who was here with me trying to make a change but im sorry i am losing morale myself at this point , love you all druids out there it was a great run