people are sick and tired to show up every raid night and wipe at Rasz because its super tuned compared with previous end raid bosses
git gud i know but last expansions we had max lvl gear from m+ 15 keys, now its from 20 and tbh, heroic raiders are not known really for the 20s bracket
some decisions blizz make, are very contradicting…
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If your guild is already thinking of disbanding at this point, the cracks are already there.
Maybe it’s what they players need. To go off and find more experienced guilds and leadership to push through the boss and progress onto the next stage.
There are guilds who have downed Heroic Raz and joining a group of players who have done so already will be good for the player.
But don’t be sad if they guild does break up, friends will always stick together and play together.
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You can craft 5 piece’s that can help also farm the first 3 mythic bosses and 18’s to help with gear. But gear can only do so much the rest is down to leadership and the player’s.
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disband as in people stopped playing wow being demoralized, not showing up at all…
Well that’s what happens every season.
A lot of players just want to see the content through. If they hit a wall and can’t be bothered (please excuse my terminology there) to carry on. Well they have seen the Raid, why do they need to kill it in a harder mode.
If they’re not interested high key M+, what else do they have to play for. See them next season.
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If everyone within your raid team is around ilvl 400 or slightly above and you still cannot clear it, then this is clearly a skill issue.
And another point, why should the last boss in the HEROIC raid be easy? If you ask me heroic should be slightly more difficult overall so there isn’t such a gap between it and mythic.
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well you will get 424 rings with powerfull effects in 10.0.7 so there is that. it should allow for final push
if only blizzrd didnt listen to mythic raiders in SL you would have had them in 10.0 very likely
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next reset unlimited VP is coming so anyone semi-serious about game will be 411 + . then that boss will be much easier
add to this ring from 10.0.7 and easier kills will come.
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We formed in SL and killed every end raid boss by week 9-10 and dont get me wrong, it wasnt a walk in the park BUT it was doable…because we met end raid bosses with max m+ ilvl gear…which was a big help
I think its was a good symbiosis between M+ and Raid balance, they increased difficulty over all this expansion for m+ and made top gear hard to get but I dont understand why?
Did players asked this?
Unlimited Vp is hardly of use, if all you ever seem to get lootwise (on those rare occasions you get more than the token effort primal chaos) from M+ is ****ing cloaks -.-
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progressing is the best part about raiding
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Hc Vault is borked.
You explode through the bosses with a decent guild and then hit a frikkin’ WALL on Raz, which is just an overtuned disaster.
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I agree, but progressing without a kill for so long, its like sex without 0rgasm, dont you agree? pretty frustrating
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Well… I mean, maybe it’s more like work without pay. 
I understand you but then its more likely you actually progress vs some people in raid rather than vs the boss.
What my guild of irl friends does if a boss isnt killable with all the friends&family for like 20-30 pulls is that we reduce the raidsize to the core and the deadweight (like my brothers gf) sit out.
This system works wonder for the guild since its creation in mop and we always get our goal of aotc in the end for everyone. It prevents frustration for the better “carry” people in the guild and the deadweights usually understand and since they dont even care about their own performance at all they dont mind to sit out for progress and like to come back when its “easier” to collect epics and stuff.
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Sorry but I can’t disagree more. Yes there is a spike in difficulty for her but my guild got her on the second reset after attempting her. And before you say something stupid like ‘you’ve overgeared’ most of us were around 405 and less
People have been selling razsa HC boosts for a couple of weeks now, not sure she’s overtuned.
The numbers don’t lie mate.
say wat
Nice try on armoury shaming dude, but at no point did he/she mention that she was part of that raid that downed Razzy - better luck next time
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