My guild is on the break of disbanding because

No its becouse actual effort put into beating this boss simply isnt worth it as progressing boss what you alredy killed multiple times in lower difficulty level simply isnt interesting or fun to spent hours upon hours in progress to beat him all over again. This burn out is casued by nature of having multiple difficutly levels of same content no becouse boss is hard.

If game would have lower or just 1 difficulty level it would be far interesting for people to beat boss and thjey would stick around to play.

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:rainbow: The Power Of PTR :hammer_and_wrench:

Meanwhile, other game developers dedicate their time to test bosses themselves to be sure that they push properly tuned and fixed content XD

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What is that please?? ive forgotten :rofl:

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this whole game is trimmed for top mythic raid guilds and streamers. Everything is against casual guilds and players. Every raid and dungeon encounter has stupid overlapping mechanics and damage profiles a nornal player cant handle. If they continue with this path they will lose more players than they gain :wink:

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In my experience with my group, once we started handling Stormsurge better (as in nobody bumping into players with the opposite stormcharged debuff while on their way to their markers) the rest of phase 2 became significantly easier. And phase 2 was were we wiped the most by far.

Multiple opposites getting too close will absolutely drain the healers so anything else going on (missed spark, tempest wing etc.) will be enough to have people die off and you won’t break the third shield, or have no combat resses left that you might need for the two cyclone boys and especially phase 3.

But yeah, the difference in difficulty was noticeable.

That’s also what we do, and yes I get cut as well at times. :stuck_out_tongue:

People are apparently extra lazy and want easy faceroll content this expac

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Lol imagine beeing in a guild with voice and everything and dont kill rasz kekw. I pugged in in 5 trys. I really really dont understand this. It isnt even a hard fight, compare it to ghuun in bfa… that one was much harder

Not the same. M Raids are now seperated into 3 ILvL brackets instead of the previous 2. You can get to 415 with Valor upgrades. Thats half of the Mythic Raid + crafted 418 pieces. People wanted better gear for doing stuff higher than 15. Which was granted with Raids being seperated into 3 brackets as a result.

And you dont have to do it. At BEST you have to 16s if you want 415 gear.

No. Its you people believing you got screwed with the vault. You were not. You went and assumed “its not max vault anymore. Must mean i got nerfed!” while thats simply not correct.

Its not. It has a massive spike within the raid but compared to other raid end bosses she is nothing out of the norm and gets absolutely hard nerfed with the valor cap removal next week.

I bet my butt on it if i were to go through your guilds logs i would see an abundance of reasons why you fail and nothing of that will have to do with the boss being hard.

Get better or go normal. Or wait for nerfs.

I pugged it 4 times , whats your point? Do you understand the difference between a guild and heroic pugging? The leader of a HC raid can chose 8/8 high RIO players and get an awesome group and 1 shot the boss. Woottodoo always kills it in pugs!!!
In a guild, you have the good the bad and the ugly, you work with what you get and hope for a win.
Surely somebody who is an active player, knows these things. I dont understand why you dont.

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If you’re not liking the raid and don’t want to bother any more, not raiding would seem a reasonable decision. But why disband the guild? Do you not like each other very much either?

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While yes that can be true for every expansion. But in OP’s defence, a sense of continuous progression is a reasonable request.

But, that doesn’t mean that players don’t eventually move on to other things, especially if they do hit a wall. Even if the game is retaining subscribers more than it has done in recent expansions.

Is that a reason for breaking up a guild? Djeez.

People stopped showing up, after weeks of frustrating wipes due to Rasz being overtuned. We blow through all the Vault bosses under 1 hour and then hit a dead end.
We killed every boss in SL within some weeks with the help of M+ gear that used to cap at +15. Healers can`t cope with the amount of healing needed in P2, even when perfectly align their cds.
We struggle ,some people are not meta we got boomies, ele shamans, some dont get invite in keys bigger than 15, so I guess its either dance the song Blizzard is playing and roll meta or …struggle til you quit of frustration

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I just cant imagine this, i was a bit rude i need to apologize for that but i really cant imagine this. I was not a big baba bubu damage and the others was all around 7/8hc so my run wasnt a super big grp. If you 20 people in voice(!!!) Its not understandable for me to not kill it.

So you don’t do other things together either? You mentioned people not getting invited to keys. Don’t you make guild groups for keys? There are plenty of things people can do together if they don’t want to raid.

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Her main was not hard to find.

404 item level with curve just like she said.

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I dunno, when I ran a guild we always used to have weekly type keys where we’d get the people in that weren’t big keyrunners for vaults and stuff. Your guild could do or could have done the same.

I’m kinda tired of people complaining about HC Raz, step up to the challenge or step out. If anything the other bosses were a little too easy meaning by the time people got to Raz they were expecting a pushover.

It’s the end boss. It takes some dedication and planning. I’d be willing to bet if you shared logs there are plenty of simple optimisations to make (how many people are potting / health potting / not even fully enchanted and so on) but its the done thing just to ask for a nerf these days.

Try the LfR option if you find it so challenging, so that your guild wont disband

When i see stuff like your hunters dying due to Corrupting Rage Phial or you lot faling the thaddius mechanic then no it has nothing to do with the boss being overtuned or not. And i saw that after merely looking for a couple seconds. God knows how much stuff i find if i actually go deep into these logs.

People are crying about any and all challenges in dragonflight more so then normal