i’ve never seen Argent Dawn empty since -i don’t know how many years- and it’s been like one of the most populated EN realm but since SL even the cities are just blank empty lmao
all my friends are leaving, casuals or hardcore players, everyone is just unsubbing or switching to TBC
it seems like no one enjoys ur content blizzard maybe it’s time to design actual content instead of cashgrabbing copy/paste stuff from previous exp / raids XD
200 days for a quest chain and 3 dailies, did the ceo fire all the employees and moved to bahamas or what?
small indie comp?
is blizzardvision still a company or what
hello?
is that thing still alive
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WoW is indeed dying. People left at the end of 9.0 and most of them did not come back. Of course Korthia looks full and populated but that is a tiny little piece of land that is easily filled by a few hundred players. The thousands that have left however are not coming back for 9.1. I know a lot of people who looked at 9.1 and told me they do not feel any motivation to come back. Blizzard has given us barely any content in this patch and unless you are going to nolife the raid or keys there is not much point to play.
I have logged on FFXIV a while ago and the chat is extremely full with WoW refugees over there. I don’t think people here realize just how many people have switched sides.
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I do sense some critical mass has been reached with the 9.1
I, for one, will not be buying the next exp pack. I bought SL and played maybe 6 hours of it. It’s repugnant.
The only reason I bought was that I believed in the bad exp-good exp cycle. Needless to say I got got.
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The thing that truly scares me is that inside Blizzard Central right now, thedevs are saying things like “old game … inevitable decline … microtransactions … retention … pandemic … hype for TBC … summer” to upper management instead of
“We did the wrong thing, but we supported it well, and it worked for a whole expansion. So we did the wrong thing again, and removed some more goodness, and added some extra badness, and it didn’t work. It should have worked; those stupid players just don’t know what’s good for them. BUT WE KNEW WE WERE RIGHT, because we’re game designers, and know better than the players what they want. So we did the wrong thing AGAIN. But the stupid players didn’t wise up. … And that’s why your revenue is down by 75%.”
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I seriously believe, shadowlands isn’t the issue. It’s an average expansion. Not worse than bfa or wod.
What truly is killing the game is blizzard’s attitude.
And i think this is a good lesson to learn.
Unless they ACTUALLY start to listen to players, change their stupid system ideology, and change some big fundamental things, no matter how good or bad the expansion is, eventually people will get sick of it and leave.
I think this was a good lesson for us. Next expansion, I’ll focus on their core ideas and plans for the game. I’ll no longer care about what content they provide or how good it sounds. And if it’s the same as it is now, It’s not worth buying.
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I am on AD and its a little more quiet but SW and Orib are very busy still so i no idea what you are on about still plenty of RP going on both AH’s in SW are busy and Cath area is always plenty about .
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Grrr… OP you made me login… and everything looks fine <.< (and thats 4am here)
I feel baited now.
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Considering it was about 2am UK time when you posted, and you expect it to be full?
That’s a bit hopeful.
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Could also have been a bad shard. Being on my warlock in Korthia and everything is swarming with people as usual. I relog on my rogue and the whole zone is a ghost town (and thats quite a feat given how small the zone is)
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Also… I see 4 groups with around 40 of people doing some open world content right now on lfg. At 4 am xD
Stop baiting ppl and let them rest before progress…
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Oribas doing /who was 50 and SW /who was 50 aswell at 3:35
that’s how im feeling, and im on a medium pop server currently there’s around 15 people online on horde and its like 6 realms also connected.
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That command has been bugged since SL pre-patch or something. It won’t show everyone.
Like:
That shaman doesn’t even show up in it, even though he’s right in front of me, the monk there doesn’t show up either even though he’s clearly in oribos.
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I mean the max /who gives is 50 anyways but yeah it’s been bugged for ages - and now since TBC is run on SL client bugged in TBC now too. Especially with layers.
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There are many reasons why the game is empty right now:
- Huge content drought, many left and never returned
- Changes in payment options
- TBC
- Most people have been on lockdown for a year and as restrictions have eased they are out enjoying the great outdoors or are on vacation
- Korthia is not really a reason to return, as its just offering the same old things
I do think we will see an uptick in people within the next week or so because people will be doing the new dungeon and raiding, plus flying is a huge quality in life improvement, but I think that uptick will be quite small. Keep in mind that even if people are in TBC and not in retail, it still keeps the retail financials healthy because you need a retail sub to access TBC.
I mean, the problem with WoW is that it’s sharded. You literally are rolling a dice to see whether you end up populated or not.
It infuriates me massively because FF14 feels alive because it’s a continuous world, last night on WoW I got lucky, I ended up on a populated shard and it makes the game feel so different than going into Sinfall and seeing a man and his dog.
I honestly don’t get the true logic behind shards.
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A lot of the features of 9.1 feels more like .X.5 patch features, talent overhauls, torghast overhaul, some daily quests.
Sure the new raid is nice i guess, and Tazavesh looks cool but it’s not available for M+ anyway. There isn’t much incentive to play 9.1 with how relatively small it is. With catchup in following patches you could probably knock out all of Korthia in an afternoon.
This is how casual content works in mmo. It’s usually possible to do it in one day.
Meantime raid with 10 bosses: few months of fun
Also pvp focused mmo’s was always easiest to maintain, cause in this mode players are creating content by themselves.
come horde bro were all here ( germans, russians, british etc
I don’t think that’s really true, raids aren’t evergreen content. Battlegrounds and arenas are an example of evergreen content, they added Arathi Basin in vanilla wow, and people still enjoy it today, and people will probably continue enjoying it until the end of the game.
World content is also more evergreen, people to this day still go back to older expansions to work on reps, or farm rare mounts and items.
Raids in wow is seasonal content besides solo farming for transmog from previous expansions, the raid is released, people spend 2-10 hours a week doing that raid for however many weeks it takes for them to clear it, then most cancel their sub and wait for the next raid.
They need to add more things than just one raid, because one raid can not carry 6 months worth of subs, it just can’t most people are done with the raid after a few resets, because they’ve been there done that.
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