My issues with 10.1 & wow in general

this is about giving useful feedback and contructive critisicm so don’t flag it just because you don’t agree and let’s have an adult conversation here

Upgrade System
it’s actually a step up from valors but there are some things that’s wrong with it.
-flight stones are useless , we could just have crests since they are harder to get , flightstones have no actual effect on our upgrade, yes sometimes we can fall short on them but it’s easy to grind so the deciding factor here is crests , i don’t think it would change much if they removed flightstones at all.
-turning 1 high level crest to the lower one, it shouldn’t give us 1 whelpling for 1 drake crest i don’t think this needs an explanation, i can do more than +6 but i still need some whelplings,
Outdoor content became irrelevant after one week
-fyrakk assault is AMAZING but that’s pretty much weekly and there are only handful of people doing rare farms now so once again, all that effort devs put into outdoor content became pretty much waste, even the campaign leads you to doing raid to complete it .
-this is a general issue with wow, the game became a hub-based mmo where you stay in the capital city when you’re waiting for dungeon,raid or pvp so most of the end-game players actually playing a hub-based game and i don’t think they care about it either so they want to focus on m+ and want outdoor content to become irrelevant and that leads to the fact of this game being catered to top %10 since pugging has zero fun in it.
-this game is 90gb but we only play 5-10 of it, yes it was always like this but old content doesn’t have to be this dead like tons of things to do but none of them mean anything other than story bits. vertical progression can be eased up a bit but that may sound like a fundamental change .

here some of the positives about 10.1 and 10.1.5
-i’m glad that story evolves to more familiar faces and more azeroth bits so we can start caring about it
-m+ is now a better pug experience but it only went from miserable to meh
-i’m glad that we’re getting tons of QoL updates but i still think we need bigger changes to make the whole game fun for everyone

about me:
i’ll get ksm and take a break from the game till 10.1.5 so you won’t be seeing me much around here and no i don’t have any gold to give u i still have my hopes high for this game.
i love world of warcraft universe and want to play it more but the fact that the end-game is in constant loop of hub-bassed content is a negative for me . one of the biggest advantages of this game is it’s open world and story, both feels neglected atp, hoping for a bigger change

we can argue on the things is said in here but let’s make it civil

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If you have upgraded an item already then replace it, to catch up to the same level only costs you flightstones. It’s quite nice not to have to spend all the other crests again.

first of all, you caused me 3 days of unnecessary ban but i’ll unignore you because i’m not mad.
and yes, it is good that we only need them with replacement but still if we didn’t have any flightstones we wouldn’t have a difference because if you grind m+ for loot, enough stones come before the loot anyway, it could be just crests & free replacements and would not change much . it just makes it complicated for lots of players for no reason
edit: i did not write ‘‘you caused me’’ with the intention of making them the public enemy, it was to let them know that i am not mad about our previous arguement. sorry that it lead to a point that derived the topic to some place else.

Just FYI I can’t cause anyone a ban.

I only mentioned the flightstones for repeated upgrades because it makes it a lot cheaper/easier to do than if we had to refarm the other crests. Personally I think it’s a good thing but the whole system seems very daunting at first when you’re trying to get to grips with it. Ofc if the repeated upgrades were free that would remove the need for flightstones.

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Well, technically you can, if you report them.

Takes more than one person to flag a post however. And the bann in the end is handed out manually.

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Like I said - technically. Puny cant, by herself, cause it.

She aint no GM yo.

Thats a really far fetched “technically”.

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Dont be ridiculous.

You and half a dozen of your fabois flag a post and over zealous mods complete the ban for ridiculous reasons.

I got banned for simply voicing my opnion on a matter that was contrary to what people in the thread were saying , believing and feeling.

First amendmend rights do not apply here and simply voicing ones’ opinion is reason enough to get banned even though what i said was in no way , shape or form, either offensive nor reason enough to get a ban. Yet it happened

That ban was enough for me to unsub and they should count their lucky stars i am even back to play this overtuned dungeon game.

Luck has it that this content is not enough this time to keep me playing beyond the paid for sub time. It is just not catchy enough and dungeons are stupidly difficult/over tuned.

The things that kept me playing wow in the past are no longer there it seems. So i find myself attempting to complete older content instead. Once i get bored of that i think my two months will be over and i can move on to something else i guess…

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I’m a fab boi? Why thank you.

Correct - because we’re not in the US, and the amendment dont apply to non-americans.

I’m pretty sure they’d be fine without you - so would other players, I think.

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When I’m queued for content I tend to be out in the world doing things. Unless I’m busy in the capital with professions or something.

Do you just afk in Valdrakken, or did you mean the new hub Loamm?

With things like M+ and Raiding we physically travel to the raid or dungeon. However if I’m looking for a pug I’m most likely going to be somewhere convenient while browsing the listings.

What would you like to see happen?

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Why should it? Its the EU forums. US law has no power here in general. And even then the first amendment has no power as this is a private forum where its reach does not extend to.

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I’m not willing to derail this discussion with people’s silly claims. So I will clarify this just one last time.

Any member of the forums can flag posts they feel break the rules. Once a post receives five flags then it will be buried. A buried post doesn’t mean the poster did anything wrong. A moderator will review the reports and take any action if appropriate. No one can get you banned. Being flagged is not the same thing as being given a timeout.

You should get an email confirming your time out and what the offense was so you can learn from your mistakes. There was a time these were going missing. It is also possible to appeal a ban if you feel it was unjust.

Having a different opinion is not grounds for any action, however the most common offense we see is people circumventing the language filter to get swear words through, and personal attacks.

If you are unsure you can read up here:-

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That is the case since TBC. Even Vanilla but alas the leveling back then was part of the main game.

Wotlk had the infamous “mammoth train” because people were just sitting in Dalaran all day.

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But I am your fanboi thooo…

Notice meeeee

no i meant like the only relevant content is hub-based content. endgame is about pvp , raid and m+. trivial stuff is there but it’s not part of the gearing journey since it has an upgrade limit . you can do rare farming, wqs etc. but after a week or two it becomes either m+ or raids if you want to continue your gearing.
wow is not any different than non-open world hub based mmos like lost ark atm. you queue/tp to the instance, do it, wait to do it again and continue with the loop.

i mostly wait at valdrakken like many other players do because there isn’t anything else i can do that’s not trivial

i don’t want to sound like a classic andy so i didn’t include leveling but at least world bosses could help with gearing, right now if you start doing 11s which became easier with 10.1, you don’t have anything in open world that can help you.

why do they bother with creating great open world maps when end game content is just about hubs that we enter

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you have stumbled upon quite a troubling thing here. as a fellow highly esteemed intellectual, the sting of being silenced like you and Breaths is not unknown to me. people fear that which they do not understand and lash out against it so in an online setting like this they silence us with the tools they have. but never give up and always keep trying to spread the truth even as hard as it may be for people to hear. you are certain to get through to someone and each mind counts.

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i actually don’t blame people here because you can’t control them but blizzard telling me that i got the appropriate punishment which was because i got tagged as a troll is annoying i mean we had a mutual conversation where we couldn’t agree for a whole thread but at the end of the day that button got abused and blizzard let it , that’s what annoys me. i have never trolled anyone on this forum , i could get it if i got banned for harrassment , even tho it’s not what i did either the other party could be offended but getting labeled as a troll made me real mad. that’s why i won’t spend as much time here anymore since i don’t enjoy the game’s current state either, i shouldn’t be worried about getting tagged as a troll and banned while i created this topic.

now this post is flagged and i got a warning that will probably cause another ban, can’t believe this . really . i literally told them i am not mad why the hell did i get flagged again, this one was for harrassing i guess. wish i just let them stay ignored. can’t believe you guys. this is my cue to leave this forum for GOOD and stop playing the game i guess.

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I didn’t flag you but if you’re worried just remove the line about the ban.

What makes you think i meant you personally? Did i touch a nerve orsomething.

Did i mention you are personally address you? No. So take a chill pill and clam down. Go back to playing your game