My pathfinder experience in BFA

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TL;DR

I did it. This morning I woke up and before finishing my coffee I did the 5 daily WQ with tortollan and hit revered with them as well and I am up in the sky.

A few thoughts as it is the first pathfinder that I am doing, I had as break between MOP and BFA.

Loremaster. It’s ok-ish. The first part is fine, you are doing a story, +80 quests, it’s catchy, I loved it. The second part is also ok. I alternate Storm with Tiragande South and I did in like 200+ quests both of them and unlock the first 2 parts of the achievement. But I was already tired after 2 long huge chains of quests.
Drustvar, the third, was already done with wowhead open and picking only the quests necessary for achiement. Every side quest was skipped. I mean seriously, I was burned out already from the intensity of questing.

The reputation. The worse grind I have done ever. 7th legion got really fast, I am even exalted plus with them. Orders of Embers and Stormwake were ok, I think I did some side quests to pick up. Proudmore samel.

But Rustbolt (Mechagon) , Ankoan and Tortollan were painful af. I did 2-3 days all WQ available. Every single one in 8 zones. I sent all my missions mainly for rep. I spent dublons from Island expeditions to increase the rep with tortollan. I bought contracts for Champions of Azeroth and used it fully 7 days and Tortollan and use it for 5 days. Last days I started to skip WQ and focus only on reps that I was missing.

I have 7 days and 2 hours played at 120 and I made the achievement after 16 days in real life. I would say I dedicate 5-6 hours daily to the achievement for 2 weeks.

It’s exhausting. I believe many people are saying there is nothing to do in BFA because you are not playing in a world of 8 expansions, you are stuck in an achievement that drains all your energy and becomes a pain. And the achievement is just to be able to play the game, is not for some super legendary item that nobody has on the server.

I know that I will not unlock flying in WoD and Legion. Is not worth it. The pain is too much and there is no reward. Is just a way to avoid the tedious walk that I hated in classic.

I love my flying mounts. I want to be able to go on top of a mountain and look and the world created and just chill in front of my PC.

I don’t expect everyone to understand, but for you Blizzard, some of us just want to play a game. To fly around, do some fishing, collect some herbs, make some money in AH, have fun. We can always toes a ball under the sun, but instead we stay in front of our computers and do something that matter for us.

I leave you now, open my youtube and listen to Live to win!

Peace!

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Hold tight! Ion said they need to look at Pathfinder for these xpacs - considering the new levelling in Shadowlands. We can live in hope (I missed them too, pretty much, little will to unlock them as they are now).

And I agree that Part 2 in BfA was a bit mind numbing. Mitigated by the fact I really like the new zones in terms of looks and music (not everyone’s cup of tea I know).

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Your problem is you were catching a whole expansion in 3 weeks :slight_smile: if you play regularly pathfinder comes basically as you play. If you are trying to catchup after a year and half from the start of expansion, it can get grindy. I know that, i returned like 2 months ago and dis that on this warrior too :smiley:

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I also had a break from MoP to 8.1.5

I was seriously happy that nobody was able to fly yet when I started again. I can imagine starting now is extra frustrating because you’re the only one left who can’t fly.

Congrats on making it :slight_smile:

On a side note, I had a lot of wpvp fun before 8.2. For me, we can remove flying from the game completely. I know this won’t happen and I know people like to fly though, so I think pathfinder is fine. Half the expansion we don’t, half we do. :slight_smile:

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It doesn’t matter when you start. You are still putting a grind of hundreds of quests plus a grind of hundred plus hours rep after that just to not play classic.

What is my issue is the ROI the return of investment. And while the questing is tiring but can be fun, a repetitive mindless world quest farm makes a bad experience.

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I’ve played BFA from the start and progressing throughout all the quests felt very natural. I don’t really recognize this feeling at all.

I’m mostly suprised you specfically choose to exhaust yourself to dedicate to a grind you dislike. Why not spread it over a few more days or even weeks? With the flightmaster whistle you can fly to most parts of the world anyways.

I am currently unlocking WoD flying because I did not play back then. The quests and zones are so cool, I honestly wished I did not stop playing back then. And the reward feels absolutely worth it for my future alts that will roam the zones.

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Its WoW, it has been grind since the beginning. You will always grind in an MMORPG genre, more or less. All i am saying is if you are trying to concentrate grind which was meant for like 6 months in 2 weeks then ye, its very unpleasant.

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I guess for the simple reason that the zones are deliberately designed to make travel by foot extremely tedious, and that locking gameplay features behind artificial grinds because Ion doesn’t like flying just really, really sucks.
Pathfinder really does not come as you play. Fresh off all the faction quests in Legion and now BfA, you’re still looking at weeks of grinding WQs and now also island expeditions just to get exalted with all the factions, and then you also have to finish p much all the quests in every zone.

You know what that is? Frustrating. When you’ve gotten exalted with everyone AND also gotten the Loremaster requirements, you’ve basically done everything that it would’ve been nice to have had flying for.
I know you say alts, but I say screw alts. Lot of people enjoy alts, but not a lot of people level their main to max and go through the grind just so they’re able to level alts.

Flying has important uses outside of that, but the way it’s designed (and again, this is because Ion doesn’t like flying) makes it so that in order to get flying, you have to do everything that flying would’ve helped you do.
Leaving you with effectively no reward for a ton of work. Yeah I can fly now, big whoop. WOULD’VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE HAD 4 WEEKS AGO WOULDN’T IT

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Ehm you know you don’t need exalted for pathfinder, right? Its revered. If you levelup throught quests and you do all quests in zones, you are about 3000/12000.

So you need only 9000 rep for revered - pathfinder. Sorry but if you can’t do 9000 rep for pathfinder I really don’t know what to say. CHoA may take a little more time but you got contracts + azerite Q lines for a lot of rep.

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Tortollan was not 3k. Not by far. And you are still missing the point.

I want to play a game as I want, not in the order you or the Devs want.

That’s agency. Ion mentioned that. Blizzard cares about agency? Right.

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You can do fine without flying. If you don’t want to do anything for it then just don’t. It’s totally up to you.

You can play the game however you want. Just don’t expect you will have everything on a silver platter.

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I wonder if you can live with others having fun and flying.

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Is there a group content which needs flying outside of wPvP?

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The game is just a lot more fun with flying. And yes; this statement is subjective. No need to understand or trying to make it logical in terms of need it or not need it

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I agree game is more fun with flying. What I dislike is people don’t want to do anything for that pathfinder. They want it for free.

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We don’t want it for free. We want a nice questline you can do in an hour or a couple of hours. Maybe combined with some achievements like exploring. Not a useless grinding the rep-number up for some weeks.

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It does not.

Some of us explore the world, but rare care for daily quests. Yet we still play and explore the world. I just don’t find dailies engaging.

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I agree. Loremaster and map exploration should be enough.

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Take everything in moderation even world of warcraft

Meaning you don’t have to do everything at once and burn yourself out

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Yeah but hold on.

Grinding those reps to revered was far from useless. I had mine all exalted way before the first major patch and I got gear and recipes out of it, as well as the rep reqs for PF pt 1.

Same deal for part 2. Grinding the mechagon and naz reps have me essences and recipes, flying as bonus.

The idea that the reps are worth nothing, or were worth nothing is false. If you grinded them in the beginning, they were valuable on their own.

The fact those rewards have been replaced leads to this perception. If you haven’t grinded them to exalted before they were redundant in terms of rewards, well that’s on you. But for many of us there were other reasons to work on them.

I can’t get behind the quest line approach. That’s too basic. There’s nothing in completing a wow quest, even if an hour long. You may as well give it for just the lore master at that point. Hiding it behind an hour quest line as well would be artificially inflating it for no godo reason. At least reps give other benefits as well.

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