My solution for reintroducing Classic Naxxramas into retail wow

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Hello dear WoW community,

Here’s my idea of ​​how to reintroduce Classic Naxxramas into Retail WoW.

  • Put an NPC like Zidormi in the middle part of the Northrend version of Naxx with the text option: “Zidormi, show me the necropolis of the Plaguelands.”

-For the few classic raid guilds out there, you could add an NPC near the Plague Cauldron where the Rare Mob Baron Bloodbane is with the same text option. Which would also fit because that was the old location of the Teleport spire until Cata, which was then moved underground and replaced by that Plague Cauldron.

Solution for any raid quests and T3 sets.

-The attunement quest stays away, because in the level phase if you quest in the western and eastern plague lands or through the later infinitely repeatable dungeon quests for Stratholme and Scholomance, you quickly and easily raise your reputation with the argent dawn to exalted.

-The T3 parts can remain in the BMAH and in return the armor scrap drops are removed from the trash loottable, and instead of the bosses dropping the respective T3 tokens, the crafting recipes for the craftable Frost Resi parts drop in return. Of course, all T3 quests are not reimplemented, otherwise the changes would not make sense.

-Frozen runes will of course also return. Word of Thawing will be reintroduced to the Trash Loot Table.

-Other raid quests shouldn’t be an obstacle to reinserting them in, as you could insert extra Argent Dawn NPCs that you could find in the middle part of Naxxramas, who distribute the rest of the raid quests like Echoes of War for example. Or place them at Light’s Hope Chapel, where they were before Cataclysm or make even new ones that would fit in Light’s Hope Chapel.

-Atiesh and the associated quest line shouldn’t be a problem either, since neither AQ 40 nor Stratholme have been fundamentally changed and their layout has remained pretty much the same since vanilla.

And just to clarify some things, I’ve looked at all aspects of Naxx and tried to work out the solution as logically as possible. Also in terms of T3, BMAH and the Raid Quests. I myself have raided Classic Naxx but only at lvl 70 and own a few items from there. I treat all players to be able to experience Naxxramas in its original form, even if it’s just bluntly farming the raid for Tmog every week.

I personally might think it’s possible since Blizzard introduced time travel NPC’s like Zidormi in WOD and later expanded everything with Chromie Time. So why not make old legacy content accessible again?

If I have forgotten something or if there are any suggestions, please let them be heard.^^

Written with Google translator because english is not my native language.

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Dont you have classic for this?

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Yes with only a few guilds raiding.

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Thats exactly why they have Classic. So players can relive the experience of Classic Naxxramas.

OP just want to go in with his High level character and 1 shot all the mobs.

Agreed, what a waste of resources it would be.

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Aren’t you the same two who always have something to complain about when it comes to content that is no longer available. I am of the opinion to have seen the both of you a couple of times.

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I myself have some old and unobtainable items and mounts, and i’m completely fine whatever Blizz dicides to put back into the game sooner or later.

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Those things are back in the game. On the Classic servers.

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Sounds like you are talking about Timewalking Raid

Yes, we should be able to do old raids and have them be scaled to LVL70 and be hard content

Blizzard should make it a core part of the game…

All old content should be used, not wasted

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I’ve been on a couple of threads this week about asking for Time Limited content back.

It’s a subject I have quite a strong view about. And just like you have a right to make this thread and bring up the discussion. I have a right to submit my opinion to the discussion.

For the record. I didn’t raid Naxx in Vanilla, I didn’t go back and do any of the quest lines during Burning Crusade either. I did raid Naxx at the start of Wotlk. But other than that, I don’t have any of the Cosmetics or anything like, from it. Or to go by the accusations I have received in other threads, I have nothing to horde away from others about it.

The game has evolved a lot since Vanilla. The story has progressed, the worlds has changed, things have been added and things have been removed. Those who participated in those things, have collected certain items. But for those who have come later, they have been locked away and unobtainable.

But there are Classic servers, where all of these items are available to collect, all of these quest lines are there to complete. I am certainly planning on going back onto Classic and reliving the experience again. But, in Classic, just like it used to be.

Lets the relics of the past be relics of the past. When you see someone in game with Atiesh Transmog, think “Oh nice, that guy is has been in this game for a long time”, don’t get jealous because you can’t have it. You can have it, go and relive the experience that player had back on the Classic servers.

Let Retail continue to evolve forwards.

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And this should also be done for every other removed instances.

Classic do neither have soloable raids nor a transmog system.

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As Classic Naxx isn’t part of Wrath, I’d be very happy for this - I’d get to farm for some priceless and renowned transmogs!

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But you have the opportunity to go back and collect items that were either Time Locked or removed.

There are still Vanilla Classic servers, and I’m sure they’ll be rebooted at some point anyway.

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I have a question… Why?!
The raid is IN the game. So… WHY?!

If only for the transmog, then… Just have those remade - they’re old and ugly and low-res anyway. I’d much rather see NEW gear.

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Season of Mastery is actually being shut down :sweat_smile: I don’t know if their servers are part of Classic (so like, do they appear in the same list?), but I think that says it all.

Everyone’s playing Wrath by now I think, that is, in the classic playerbase.

If Wrath will have a Heroic+, then this too could go through :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Collecting them on a classic char doesn’t count. It is my retail chars that are the collectors. Which would be impossible to do in classic anyway as I would be competing with 39 other players for loot. That is unacceptable.

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I’m pretty sure there are still Classic servers, not just SOM.

I expect at some point Classic will restart at some point. But rather than just keep it rolling, I’m sure they’ll instigate a whole set of new players to start again.

We’ll see.

My friend, let relics of the past be relics of the past. They’re gone and not collectible anymore.

The items are there on the Classic servers, relive the experience that other players have to live through to get it. You’ll feel a lot prouder owning those items if you earn them, rather than just 1 shot your way through.

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They all are possible to re-add to retail as they aren’t gone - their existence in Classic proves that.

I am not saying that re-adding all lost should be first priority, but it would be a huge win for Blizzard as we are many collectors that didn’t play vanilla back in 2004 that would welcome the opportunity to visit and farm the content on retail.

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Just checked, they have 3 Tabs, Season, Russian and Classic Era.

So Classic Era and SOM are separate.

By why? Just let them be gone. They were rewards to players who played the game during its Origins. If it wasn’t for the success of Vanilla - Wotlk, the game wouldn’t be here anymore.

I appreciate Collecting items is a thing now. But back then getting a Reward like this was an achievement. Naxx wasn’t an easy raid, and it was still fairly challenging during BC. But those who did manage to complete it and received the rewards were really committed to their goal. It’s not like going back and clearing Tempest Keep to get Alar, or Black Temple for the Warglaives. Most guilds didn’t even get to Naxx during Vanilla, which is why they put it at the start of Wotlk, so players had a chance to experience the raid.

By allowing anyone to go back and weald Atiesh, really devalues the time and effort players put into achieve it at the time.

The game is very different now. You don’t get an experience like that anymore, because the game became more open and friendly to casual players. Allow those who really committed their time to the very early days of the game (and hence to the eventual success of the game) to have and enjoy the rewards for their efforts.

It’s not something you need to have. But if you’d like it, you can get it on Classic servers.

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Cant happen, redone to many times. Wow, Wrath, Classic WoW, classic Wrath. Flogging a dead horse for every last penny.

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Which also applies for any current raid current - where rewards exclusively goes to the worthy raiders. However, everything loses value over time - both in exclusivity and in the power the rewarded gear gives as it becomes replaced by more powerful new tier raid gear. At the same time the old raid becomes more accessible over time requiring smaller and smaller groups of less powerful player, before becoming completely soloable.

Just because the rewards from the removed vanilla raids are highly exclusive, it doesn’t makes them better than higher tier raid gear. Instead they are significantly weaker and only holds value as a transmogable appearance. I will argue that the most iconic raid rewards are actually the very first tier set in WoW from Molten Core. You couldn’t go more unique than that back in the days, and it is a pleasure to grind forth those tier sets for us newer collectors.

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