My take on the 58 boost (41yo oldschool wow player)

This is a message board, nobody here gets to decide anything. I could ask for all players to be recolored pink and it wouldn’t make a scrap of difference.

I am perfectly aware that I don’t get to decide how players play the game. The comment is irrelevant because I have absolutely no power to enforce my will, even if I wanted to.

The point is that I think that the pay-to-win boost will have devastating consequences for the game over the long term. Therefore I believe that your view that the ‘boost doesn’t matter’ is completely wrong, and I will continue to argue against it.

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Problem is that people are unable to see further than the tip of their nose. They just want “more convenience”, because they are unable to think beyond that. They want instant gratification.

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It’s also not pay 2 win.

It’s a level 58 with not a lot else. Nothing about the boosted character is a win, if there even is such a thing in wow.

The issue is that through your arguments you are essentially saying only these certain groups of people can play. If a player doesnt meet the terms you argue for then they shouldn’t play?

It’s a bonus gold through having an additional character which can be used for professions, which makes you earn more gold, which allows you to buy BoEs, which is pretty important on the launch day for raiding and arena.

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You must absolutly hate this fact.
Everything you say suggest you would like to have this power.

Then please stop trying to enforce your way of thinking upon us.

Nah, people do it not to control other people, but to avoid certain influence that will devalue their achievements in the game or ruin the experience.

Still i must disagree.
Because i can boost or level an alt myself. Either way i can have mulitple chars on 70 before any giving date if i wanted to

True, and if you do it by yourself it is fair. Unless we are talking about gold boosting through afk mage aoeing, then yeah it’s an issue, which also needs to be addressed in Classic+ and preferably in TBC too.

The boost isn’t “pay to win”.
You don’t get a lvl 70 character decked out in SWP BiS gear.

You get a dungeon-geared lvl 58 with a hamstring-mount, no professions, and probably not even enough gold to buy a single Flask. Compare that to the Mass of Naxx / AQ40 stacked capped characters people will flood HFP with when the portal pops open, and explain to me where exactly the “win” is situated.

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It’s p2w in the context of casual/semihardcore players who didn’t bother to overprepare and can have additional profession alt by buying the boost. Which is important, since the kind of people who made an account full of lvlcapped profession alt characters is really small, and there are much more casual/semihardcore. And also in the context of absolutely crazy individuals who will buy multiple accounts to have a farm of boosted profession alts on different accounts.

Ok. Let’s entertain this thought.

The suggestion is that boosting is unfair because you are not putting in the same amount of time.

But that is looking to narrowly considering so many factors can play a part.

Is it fair that a guy in his 40’s gotten 5 million euro’s from his rich parents so he does not have to work and can play literrly 24 hours a day?

No normal person can do this, we are bound to work ect. So in a bigger prespective, is a boost really that bad you think?

Yeah, because you put up these hours inside the game manually, instead of bypassing it through real life means.

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Maybe let’s determine what ‘winning’ is?

So?

I have, as of now, 4 Tailoring-Alts, prepared. My main is already respecced to Tailoring ofc. A 6th tailor will join them once the prepatch hits, because I will 60cap my Shaman before TBC release as well.

So let’s do the math:

The non-preparing player will have his main and 1 alt == 2
I will have my main and 5 alts. And that’s if I don’t use the boost myself == 6

Again, please tell me how the boosting player is “winning” here? At best he can make up some ground.

Having a noticable advantage.

He makes up a ground that he shouldn’t be able to make up.

Why not?
What negative impact does that have on my experience of the game?

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Because, I think, that no-lifer deserved this advantage for being a nolifer. If you would really want a justice for a casual you would just advocate for a fresh tbc server.

But you find it ok that this nolifer has gotton millions from his parents to be able to nolife.

So unfair advantages in real life are ok, but an added effect is that this nolifer has gotten his advantages based on his real life situation.

But when i pay 50 euros for a boost you find it unfair.

Sorry, I must have missed something there…will my tailoring-alt-army disappear if someone uses a boost?

No?

Then I don’t see how I am missing out on the advantage I got.

Yes, because world of warcraft is the escapism type of entertainment and the real life situation and resources should bleed in the game as little as possible. It doesn’t matter if a person could afford to sit behind the computer for this long, it matters because the person did it inside the game, not by shortcutting their progress by introducing real life recources.

You are decreasing the advantage you gain between you and a person who didn’t bother to level alts by themselves.