Mythic + from a "weekend" player perspective

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Hey,

so, how do i begin this topic…

I guess my first question to you, Blizzard, is what is the point of your quest “Cracked keystone”?
Are you trying to lure more players into mythic+ content?
Is that the purpose of this quest?

I’m not doing m+, simply because for me, it is too hard.

And while i understand, for many, it’s fun and everything, i have other priorities in life and i don’t have time to learn mechanics and get much more experiences in dungeons, mythic dungeons and following to m+ content.

So with that in mind, why do i even write this topic right? What is my point?

If you are trying to lure more players into M+, i think great start would be making low keys easier.

I can do mythic dungeons with closed eyes, we don’t really need to know mechanics there, right?
But the difficulty and skill requirement going from Mythic, to Mythic +2, is such a big jump…

I went yesterday and today into M+ only to accomplish this quest “cracked keystone”, but let me tell you, we wiped like 4 times, i spent propably about 2 hours for nothing.
Today, finally i finished my first +2, luckily i had the honor to play with couple of much more experienced players, who guided me through dungeon i never even been through before and we finished in time.

Which leads me to another point.
We propably were there for like 20 minutes? 20 minutes, of INTENSE fighting, like i almost died like 4 times.
Why do i say this?
For all that effort, intensity, fighting, i got 59 gold…
That’s a very bad joke.

So, this is coming from a very casual player.
If you, Blizzard, wants us noobs to play M+ more, first, make it easier from the lower tiers and slowly add difficulty with higher keys.
And, give me some freakin reward after each run!

I have gold, i have all kinds of materials and currency and items and pets from just 1 Delve run, which is much easier!
But only like 60 gold from m+ dungeon? Which is much much harder?

I’m just saying…
It’s your game…
But if you wanna introduce more players into m+, you might wanna make some changes.

Thank you, and have a nice day :v:.

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It’s a great mode for all. You can just list a key and do it. I did my own +6 Gambit as tank without ever being in the dungeon ever.

All I did was watch a short boss guide but I didn’t watch it all. I didn’t even know there was a P2 on the final boss.

You just list the key and invite people. I just invited the first people who signed up. It’s the ultimate game mode. Anyone can do it.

The magic is that you never know how it will go.

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Or dont do the quest?

The game caters to all kinds, they dont have to make it easier to cater to you.

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I mean, I have 1 kid and 4 wives. I pay for 4 houses and I work 18 hours a day, and I still manage to do M+

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No one is forcing you to do the quest or participate in any content you don’t like or find hard to play. It’s for wider audience as a game feature for players.

There are also mythic raid difficulties - we’re also not forced to do those. You don’t even have to do LFR if you don’t like raiding scene or being in a group with 20 other people.
I am also not doing PvP quest if they’re weekly for example, nor doing Pet Battles. But that doesn’t mean it’s something that needs to be changed just because I don’t like it.

It’s not like this quest is mandatory for you. It’s up to you what you decide to do in game.

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some people just need incentive to try .

its not repeatable so im sure you can suffer through 1 singular +2 if you want that extra crests.

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What quest is that?

Yeah, that is pathetic amount of gold.

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I’m sure you can google it, it’s called “cracked keystone” as i mentioned.
I got it when i logged in first time in season 3, i guess it’s like an introduction to a new season or something like that.

Not just gold. Give me some item, some piece of equipment for my hard work yk?
It’s overall pathetic reward.

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Yea please.

And remove the level squish, it was better before.

What is the quest btw? I thought weekly is for battlegrounds

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There are quest for pvp, i don’t do pvp so i don’t do the quest. Surely the same would apply if you dont do M+ just don’t do the quest. You could do it on a +2 that is not that taxing. Im not trying to be a d@#k just saying. If you can’t find some one to do it with i’ll happily give you a hand at the weekend.

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A +2 is not hard work

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Its not hard alto it may be the first time, you memorize all the mechanics rather fast and then it becomes easy all the way to +10 making delves feel like they are just meant to make you burn out.

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Don’t do Mythic+. Get out while you still can. Your soul will be crushed, your sanity tested.

You’ll never look at a dungeon the same way again. The derangement in there is not for you. It’s not for anyone sane.

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Is it? Afaik it’s just +7% of scaling. Sure, there is the affix to handle but that makes +2 arguably way easier than +0s because the affix is an immense power gain.

The added timer might introduce more stress because you’re under pressure but difficulty wise, I’d argue +2s are easier than +0s.

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So the 3 wives are just for fun?

The Great Vault will have a random ilvl694 in its respective line for completing that +2. That is one (delayed) reward for completing it. You also earned 10 Runed Crests.

I know they are not the reward you have been after, but they exist. I am not saying it’s a good system however.

Not everyone has +10 on farm on Week 2.

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too late, sanity is gone.
Got dragged screaming and kicking yesterday by two guildies to tank a +6 for them.

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The affix is only added at +4 to +11, afaik. So all it is, is a difference of a couple percent in damage and health - which cannot in any form explain the experienced huge gap between M0 and M2.

And Fortified and tyrannical come in at +7 and +10.

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Ah, so it only gets added at +4. Might be, never paid too much attention to it.

Yes, according wowhead, a +2 scales with +7%, which isn’t noticable at all.

So I don’t understand where this “huge jump” comes from.

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Must be just the perception of someone in a group where nobody interrupts and everybody stands in goo:)

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I could imagine it’s a phsycological thing. Unless it’s your own key (and you actually read the pop-up), you just don’t see how much the mobs scale.

In your head M+2 is 2 levels higher than M0 (even though it’s just 1 level higher), so you just expect it to be decently harder than M0.