So you’re saying people didn’t outgear heroic raid in the first week by doing m+?
Heroic is for us plebs. The real game is mythic.
Play it or join the kids in the sandbox…
20% to get one out of 3 items, of which the Azerite ones seemingly have the mandatory traits, some items with a guaranteed (non-rng) corruption effect.
60% chance to get 1 out of 6 (at least?) Items that can drop for your class. No azerite. No guaranteed corruption (and even if, then it is up to rng again)
Mhm yea, superior, if you manage to please the rng gods for an item with good stats, with a good corruption effect and with a rank of corruption you can use. 3x RNG in 1 system, superior my sorry behind.
Ah yea, those 475s you can buy which end up missing the most important trait? Nice for your OS I guess?
End of the line; M+ contains everything “we” hate most about this game: RNG x RNG. At least in raids you only have to worry about whether you actually get loot or not.
Besides, the M+ system is perfect for raiders to do on the side as extra. Whereas it usually is a bit more complicated the other way around…
People still runnig raden and last bosses for the loot.
You find a vita trinket in M+?
A manifesto of madness?
Obsidian claw?
Last boss weapons?
What are you on about? M+ gear is absolute trash
i wouldnt see me doing this massive boring for me content otherwise
even now i need to kill wrathion every week
Not to mention raiding is actually fun, compared to the random ragequit fests that M+ often are…
mythic plus is fun when whole team is competent for the corresponding key
just trust me on this one
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Doesn’t matter since you need corruption, not only that but a specific corruption and it doesn’t end there, you need a specific trait of that specific corruption to drop.
Nah, all the best trinkets are still from Nyalotha raid. M+ gear is kinda garbage.
Personally I’d rather be locked in a dark room and be forced to listen to screamo than raid.
Once you escape the 10-14 bracket in m+ it becomes a blast.
I wish people would stop trying to be game designers.
Source?
Proof of drop chance?
Oh look, it’s that ‘‘raid should be the only means of best gear ever’’ thread in disguise again, even after they raised it from +10 to +15 for max gear.
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Mythic+ just like Heroic ( and M0 ?) should be locked after one run and key should be universal.
There is comparable amount of raid bosses to amount of dungeons and keys does not reset to 0 each weak so it would be fair. Very-very fair.
Yet raid is still the source of best gear ever. As it should be.
Raid has proper trinkets, 485 weapons, 490 bis azerite pieces…
You can do bazilion of m+ keys and loot a million weekly chest… There wont be any loot i mentioned above. Not even close in terms of quality.
Best 2h weapon still drops from kings rest
Equip: [Your melee attacks have a chance to make the enemy bleed for 13358 Physical damage over 12 sec. You are healed for 11688 when an enemy dies while bleeding from Geti’ikku.]
Is 465 weapon really the best there is? Getting it in weekly is a far fetch as looting million weeklys is not realistic.
And even if it is, its just an exeption to the rule. Raid still has a ton of exclusive stuff you cant get in m+ in terms of quality. Just those 490 ilvl azerites alone are giga.
Sure and appearantly that raiding advantage is not enough, complaints on the forums over M+ gear still happen, some people here will only be happy when they remove M+ I guess.
I think its very good as its now.
Raid offers giga rewards you can not get anywhere else, but is hard and non-spammable.
M+ gives us one 475 piece per week, its not even max ilvl (max is 485 for many pieces). I see it as blizz throwing those who dont raid mythic a bone, like in a few months you can earn gear close to mythic, but worse. Other than that you can spam m+ for 465 gear… 465 gear are scraps at this point.