Mythic+ honestly drops too much gear

They will probably have a feast at their lfr wipefest gathering
And introduction of in game shop for gear cause game has 500k subs only and need more donations to support itself!

Yes but this is case only if you do mythic raiding. But Mythic+ ltieraly made heroic raiding absolote and Mythic having slighly better gear is very poor motivation to do mythic raiding for fact you have to put 1000% more effort into it. Mythic+ is way too easy and reward way too good gear on way too big cadence.

You made the same topic then and told the same answers.

Here is the classic elitist, who wants to take away skill and fun out of game to make more people boost him in 20 man stampede
Too much loot, huh?
Then earn some, cause you are on pair with open world player

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Nothing to do with being elititis. With Mythic+ existence there is no point having normal and heroic rading and Blizz migh also just remove those difficulty levels becouse they are made absolote by mythic+. And only reason why people defend current gearing from mythic+ ois fact that those people are entilted and simply enyoj fact they are showered by gear no beocuse its fun and balanced way of gear progression but becouse they are entilted players waht want power for doing least amounth of work.

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Only mythic countsā€¦ And saying mythic loot is not worth it cuz you need effortā€¦ All i hear is the grapes are sour (fable of fox and grapes)ā€¦ You also need a lot of skill. And most do it for the challenge, best gear is just the bonus reward. You can reach the grapes or you can just say it isnā€™t worth it cuz they sour anyway.

Heroic is in the same bag as m+. Trashy loot for trashy content.

What kind of loot do you want from heroic? Its piss easy unless you do it 1st week. Same kind of piss easy as a +15 key. Both reward scrapsā€¦

But fact is, the best and most exclusive gear comes from raiding.

Mythic raiding gear is very small upgrade compared to heroic and for way way more effort than is needed for heroic raid. Mythic+ is just way too efficient compared to runing heroic raids that it simply witn worth doing which alredy killed multiple casual heroic guilds as people simply stop running raids as mythic+ is way easyer.

Non-sense. Why remove anything? Its different content. Some like raiding, some like m+, some like both, some like noneā€¦

Some like normal raid, some like mythicā€¦

Choice is always good.

Btwā€¦ By your logic, remove all bikes as they are made obsolete by motorbikesā€¦

16-19 bracket*

There is not suchg thing as like more. Players alway do what is most efficient way to get gear and finish up content they dont care if something is more fun. Running mythic +15 is way more efficient than anything below mythic raiding so people will do this and anything below mythic raiding will simply die.

Running a motorbike is way more efficient then running a bikeā€¦ And yet people still use bikesā€¦

Start using logic if it isnā€™t too lateā€¦ They say you need a certain brain capacity to understand logic.

And heroic raid and m+ is comparable in effort and reward. They both are easy and reward trash.

And most people play for fun, not some stupid gear you replace every few months.

Rally bad analogy. Motorbike is also more dangerious and not very efficient when you want to actualy sport and also much more costly than bikes.

Mythic+ and heroic raiding is no comparable at all just for fact you need only 5 players to run mythic+ dungeon alredy makes mythic+ easyer to do than heroic raiding.

As much as Travar is harsh with words, he still is quite right both about difficulty and preference.
Games donā€™t run on efficiency alone, especially games that live for 15 years, and itā€™s devs who should reinforce successful and popular content not punish peopleā€™s interest and fun cause some underperforming elitists complains

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Games alawys run on efficieny for majority of players. Awlays.

I always seen more players as an advantage. The burden is spread evenly and you carry less weight.

I would say that at this point heroic raid is easier than a +15 key on a bad m+ week, and harder than a +15 on a good m+ week. So about the sameā€¦ Or the difference is so small it doesnt matterā€¦

Are you one of those players? The efficient ones?

Cuz looking at your gear I donā€™t think soā€¦ Or is that the efficiency you talking about?

They are not advantage. More players = higher possiblity of fail. Also there is much higher logistic difficutly. Having shelude, being in guild, etcā€¦ You cant comapred it to easy find 4 other players and go.

What is most efficient way to experience content? Run LFR so thats what i do just like majority of playersĀ“what doesnt care about gear upgrades as there is no need for them.

Titan residuum is timed so that you get your mythic 3-set way after tier is on progression. Sometimes itā€™s quicker to do weekly 1-3 mythic raid bosses in a PUG. And thatā€™s with prices for random piece, some specs really have to target specific trait to be viable so they canā€™t really go for the random.

As for weekly gear - itā€™s a random item, for many specs a random item of higher ilvl isnā€™t usually better than an item of specific secondary stats. Same with end of M+ run - itā€™s a random gear from the loot table.

And there is corruption on top of that. So not only the gear has to have correct secondaries but most of it it has to have the correct corruption effect. I did ā€œa lotā€ M+ and some raiding in 8.3 and did not get ANY desired corruption effect and at some point stop bothering and playing.

It have been stated that they want less gear flowing around in Shadowlands. With lack of corruption or XForging the gear you get canā€™t be by a random chance better so if you get the item you want you are done. Less gear drops wasted. Similarly weekly will allow to choose so more usable choices thus less gear drops needed to gear up.

Can you please play World of Logistic and Delivery simulator instead?
Cause I donā€™t like to gather 20 ppl every week, share tactics with somemof them, sum their lazy butts over and pay for that x euro a month

Omg billy died on the first mechanic, probs bought curve, now we have to pull more weight! Oh hey, johnny and Barbara are licking their screen as well, so much fun to spend my time to gear you all!

People of current generation come for fun factor and should be rewarded for skills, not shepherding the lazy to the entrance