One +11 UNTIMED run: 60% chance at 460 loot + titan residuum to buy mythic azerite gear + guaranteed corrupted 465 item in weekly chest. 5 people, no lockout, spammable.
One heroic raid boss: 20% chance at 460 loot. 20 people, weekly lockout.
Not to mention finishing a +11 is easier than heroic raid bosses.
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yes and no. circumstantial
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Then more people can go raid mythic, that must be a good thing right?
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We have been through this exact same subject not so long ago. What do they call it again, when you do exactly the same and expect different results?
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Someone explain to me why m+ shouldn’t have a lockout like raiding? Meaning you can only do one +10 per week, one +11 etc. Right now people feel incredible pressure to spam m+ 24/7 which is very unhealthy.
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stop trying to destroy game for milions of players
raiding is boring and has been boring for years.
mythic + was born out of nessesity because people didnt want to raid.
maybe first think why players find raiding so appaling .
maybe the answer would be splitting raids into 3-4 wings each flex - raiding style so that each wing is separate and lasts 30-45 minutes max.
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If people feel pressured to spam m+ all day and night i think they have some deeper issues that needs to be looked at. Its so rare to get any actual upgrades from m+ now when TF is removed. If you only play for loot, why even bother playing?
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That’s your opinion. I find raiding marvelous, but I’m not hardcore enough to join a mythic raiding guild.
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But you dont have to be hardcore for mythic raiding just join a casual raid guild?
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You seem to have amazing ideas every 15 minutes and clearly wow devs are unable to fulfill your dreams and wishes but I have a great idea which would solve this problem. Just make your own game!
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There’s no such thing as a casual mythic raiding guild.
I agree that now that M+ offers very similar loot to raiding they should relax / remove the weekly raid lock, it is meaningless.
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Really? I’m in one myself
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Trinkets and weapons from M+ are trash compared to raiding ones…
Also last bosses give a better ilvl gear + azerite pieces.
I dont know whats wrong with you and your crusade vs M+ but can you explain us instead why you hating it so much? Literally on s4 that M+ gear is the most useless. What you say was true for the past 3 seasons but excluded again weapons and trinkets.
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Isnt it 2 pieces of loot for untimed 11? Timing gives the +1 bonus.
If only raiding was way more accessable, with LFR not opening so slow, then i am able to raid far more.
Ok that’s still double the loot than a heroic raid boss.
Why would you spam M+ 24/7? It is all about corrupted items, and spamming M+ is by far the worst source. Besides, 460? That anyone can have by now.
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I actually feel way more ‘pressured’ because of the short tiers. When it would be 2 years the same it doesnt matter you are not finishing something for a month.
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Big vouch.
On a side note m+ drop has like 0.001% to corrupt and I hate it.
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Over 100 10-15 on my priest… 2 corrupted items in total.