It would certainly prove your point.
The last time I pugged the first three bosses, most of my DDs were hunters who were here after that bow. This tells me it is quite desirable for them.
Right. And 
to try to âproveâ something to someone on the forums. It is fine if you do not believe we play this game every day for multiple hours for fun.
Iâm saying that in an mmo the loot is the big incentive.
You are still avoiding the question on why people do +18s and above if there are NO upgrades to be found there?
And yes. My mage still is unlucky and needs Skittraâs chest as upgrade. This week the raid leadership decided to extend and thus the first 3 bosses were skipped.
So according to yourâŚâlogicâ I should have gquit there and raged. Since I wont be able to do any bosses which drop loot for ME this week. DamnâŚneed to start looking for a new guild guess. How dare they refuse bosses which I WANT STUFF from?
Then why am i going to M+ 18? If it is about loot i better farm +15âs. i am actively NOT farming loot.
Only uldir trinkets was not that great.
From BoD trinkets started shining, not EP.
EPâs trinket are so strong that are still bis for alot of dps classes lol
Yes but it could not TF WF high from M+. Raiding ones where still better.
Then you better watch groups you join if you cant.
If they cant do it, doesnt mean its not doable.
Mahority of player choose content they do based on efficiency no based on how fun it is.
Becouse you are minority.
Wow you can do heroic bosses like Xanesh, Raden, and Ilâgynoth without any communication? Amazing.
Mayority of the players play hours per day for fun.
Yes⌠You can.
News flash?
You need discord to assign football people?
On raden you dont need any mechanics since healers are so strong atm that can outheal everything lol
M+ is not more exciting. its jsut faster unlimited supply of instant gratification and nothing more.
Iâm not arguing whether heroic raid is easy or hard. If thereâs one thing we can all agree on though, itâs that raid set tier bonuses need to come back.
Absolutely HELL NO.
Did you even raid on a guild that did not allow you to get the tier set because youre not a meta class?
News flash, i have CE on HFC and my DK still has heroic chest because all loot gone to meta class AKA MAGES.
While i dont agree with all my heart, that doesnât mean they are not coming back. Im aware its been mentioned somewhere that they will come back but not on SL first patch.
If you have been in such guild than you are minority. Becouse most guild did not do this.
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I did not have a single trinket drop that I would have considered good on my paladin, neither did I have on my hunter. Casters have Sliver, but that was more of a gimmick trinket that you couldnât use on stacking fights. Other trinkets had equivalents that were more easily obtainable from M+.
Galecallerâs Boon, Harlanâs loaded dice, Plume and other such trinkets were the trinkets to go for. Even if you check now EP trinkets are on top, and other than the Vita-Charged Titanshard the vast majority of top trinkets all come from M+.
Weapons were five itemlevels lower from the mythic version if I recall it right, and it was for this reason why most classes could get a weapon for them from the first three bosses of the tier. Bosses that were easily puggable, so atleast there was that.
No they dont. They play for to experience content. Question is if process of experiencing content is fun. For most players its not due to fact that lfr and lfg is path of least resistance where that process isnt fun.
Lol. Most players are logging in for not having fun 
Of course. of course.
There was always some form of preferential treatment regarding tier sets. Some guilds took it to extremes others had milder approaches(like gear up the dps first, tanks, healers later).
But please donât tell us that âtier-set favoritismâ in ML did NOT exist? Or wasnât widespreadâŚ