Right. So i do something wrong. Since after a dungeon or 25 i just reached +10.
https://raider.io/characters/eu/argent-dawn/tsjelvivy#season=season-bfa-4
This is over a month play, so i was able to get some azerite 
Not complaining by the way, but i do not see this in a weekend 
Wouldnât say wrong but maybe not optimal
I mean, when I formed those groups Iâd try to armor stack a bit too. Then you had world boss of the week and if youâre willing to endure it had WFs.
When we want to gear up a alt we spend a few hours in m+ and have it kited out in full 15+ gear in a evening by armor stacking usually.
That is ofc not the same as good geared as the stats tend to be bad and cloak level low and azerite armor needing to farmed over a longer period of time.
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You are completely wrong.
If you wanted to be bis geared in both pve and pvp you had to raid in all of bfa.
You got 465 items in dungeons and 475 item in chest. And its completely RNG.
Itemlevel simply didnt count, on my m+ geared dk alt for arena my bis gear had itemlevel 469 while my maximum itemlevel was 480.
If you wanted bis trinkets, azerite gear, and stack certain stats, you had to do raids, and those owning the arena was mythic raid geared people, not m+ geared people.
On my dh alt i did multiple +15 runs weekly, last 12 weeks of 8.3 i didnt get ONE item neither in dungeon or in chest that was considered an upgrade.
On my pala alt i did mythic raiding. I didnt get ONE upgrade in m+ after i did mythic raid weekly.
So you say raids didnt count? Completely wrong. M+ made the community more alive again.
Also m+ is the most challenging form of pve if you push keys. Everyone, and i mean everyone, top mythic raiders included, will get to a point where it just says stop and they cant complete the key.
So I did some digging up. It took me a couple more runs to get to 10s in 8.2, 9 on my warrior and something like that on my mage. Still, all in a weekendâs work. Sure I had the house for myself those weekends, couldnât have pulled it off with the family around me, but still got it done in a weekend (if it were 2 weekends it would still mean relatively quick anyway).
Hey Kuro. Weâre doing great hope youâre having fun too!
If i calculate it right it took me on my main even 31 dungeons to get to my first +10 in s2 
edit:
Oh wait you said 8.2 (s3). I dont think i have done a dungeon below 10 in s3.
Mythic+ isnât bad for the game. Itâs just M+ gearing is causing loot problems.
1st of all you can spam it and get high ilvl pieces at every moment of the game while you can clear raid once a week and you can get 1 piece from PvP unless you are 3k rated and then you can buy 2.
M+ itself is a great idea and addition to the game but it has few core issues.
-It means the same dungeons will be played over and over again for the whole expansion. In the middle of the expansion you are already tired of some of them.
Maybe if they released them in batches connecting them with certain raid tier. It also makes Blizzard not to release new dungeons a lot. They usually do 1 per raid tier and BFA they only gave us Mechagon.
-Gear as a source of gear M+ is the most repetitive and can award you with the biggest amount of gear possible because there is no limit to M+ runs that can award you with gear.
-M+ has no ingame rankings besides 3rd party RIO. It makes part of the community just clear 15 for the item and only few enthusiasts are clearing higher ones.
I think that the best solution to M+ would be bringing back Justice, Valor points and creating M+ ranking system. Justice would be granted for everything below M+ and Valor for M+. There should be a loot table for these items that you can upgrade for the currency so there wonât be endless grind. Ladder would make M+ comepetitive and convince people to push higher keys for rewards.
Imagine a title and equivalent to seasonal gladiator mount, enchant, tabard and transmog set.
I feel that more people would play it as a content and focus more on it instead of treating it as loot casino gaming machine.
Also I think they should incorporate Legion and BFA dungs into M+ rotation so current ones wouldnât get boring after 2 years of clearing them. If dungeons would be rotated every week with affixes it would give more interesting combinations. Maybe even reworking some old dungeons to be M+ viable. WoD and MoP ones would be perfect.
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