Almost the only reason for slow progress in getting gear.
Not only do you need to withstand the bullsh** that blizzard develpod with affixes, you have a timer that makes you hurry up hurry up hurry up.
What does the timer serve?
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Challenge mostly, without timer we would spend ages in each dung, waiting for CDs after each pull, it will turn to slugfest.
Also, without timer how will u decide when u upgrade or downgrade key? Killed last upgrade didnt finished down? That way everyone will eventualy get to higher keys where they have nothing to do (sorry) just because they spend half day in dungeon and kill bosses with boredom.
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mythic dungeons dont serve excitement or enthusiasm, its frustrating, boring content with annoying affixes.
Like rather have max wipe amount or extra bosses to have better key upgrades or buy key upgrades from a vendor after opening weekly chest.
Because with the timer its useless, it puts extra stress and frustration on players, even one time when i did one dungeon really well with my group, we still lost to a timer.
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Then you didnāt do it āwellā.
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You know, thats like, your personal opinion
Of you think it puts stress on you and u cant handle it just dont do them?
I think you dont understand what ārealy wellā means then
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mad cuz bad?
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The only problem I see with m+ is leavers because of raider io since it appears on their page if they dont make it on time , so people who care about it will gladly leave a dungeon even at the last boss just so it doesnt appear on their page , that is a terrible system
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Thereās been a few groups where we wiped so much I thought we werenāt going to make it, but we did in the end, so I think the timer is pretty fair imho.
As for affixes, they were most likely added to balance out the power creep with corruptions and essences. As people get stronger, the timer isnāt much of an obstacle tbh.
The timer is the entire point of M+, the whole challenge is to complete ever increasingly difficult dungeons within a time limit.
The timer is what puts the challenge in the dungeon, clearing a +30 in 5 hours using pots and bloodlust on every pull and waiting for 5 CRs to be ready for every bossfight isnt hard, doing it in one swoop with limited resources is.
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we had minimum amount of wipes but because bosses are bullet sponges and minions have burst and other crap, we were late few minutes.
Like low il players have problems to get gud when people dont want to join your mythic + or dont let you to join them, its hell to healers and its hell to tanks when people keep rage quiting and your keys go down in the level.
Also if the timer is for challange, than wtf are the affixes? i believe everybody loves burtsting and healers love necrotic while the game tells you to hurry the f*** up
Well the faster you do it the better key you get in return
M+ works similar to a raid boss pull. Every boss have enrage. So M+ is even more forgiving in that regard.
Now whether you like 30-minutes raid fights or not is another matterā¦
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Had the timer remained like in legion, it would be better. I mean, during Legion, wiping once was not that bad. In BFA however, wiping once is enough to deplete a key and I donāt think thatās ok.
Imagine when new person joins wow.
and you tell him.
so, when you hit 120.
You need to level up a shiny necklace for 2 weeks, a magical cape for over a month, than grind same dungeons until your eyes bleed, than do the same dungeons with affixes that make the dungeons much more difficult and unforgiven and please god dont be a dps because nobody loves you while fighting the timer, Get insulted by teammates, teammates leaving.
THAN do daily world quests so you arenĀ“t behind and doing all of this with only fan tutorials and wow addons because bfa is just soo well made.
No? I certainly didnāt spend ages in each dungeon before mythic plus was introduced.
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i want to see you to make a new alt from lv 1 and grind it to 480il and tell me how fun it is.
Takes a weekend to get to around 460 ilvl. You obviously donāt like M+ too much, thatās fine.
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it took me more then a week with demology warlock to get even into 455 because nobody joined and nobody accepted my character.
With a tank its little bit simpler but soo much more frustrating to tank dungeons with either community groups or random because if you aggro even little too much, its a whole wipe.
Yea, dungeons were nowhere that hard before there was mythic +, so it makes only senseā¦ Also, there used to be dungeons that took waaaaay to long even with good group.