What was the point of letting everyone have overpowered PvP gear ? Grinding rank 10 is too easy at the moment and PvP blues are stronger than most items in the game.
You don’t need to grind UBRS, BRD, Scholo, Stratholme because PvP rank 10 grinding is much easier and much rewarding.
You don’t need pre raid BiS because PvP rank 10 gear is better with its huge defence, stamina and intellect. You can die to anything if you have Pre raid BiS instead of PvP gear in MC for example.
What was the point ? People afk farming 50 hours / week overpowered gear, and all the other instances are unimportant anymore.
Nerf AV and Make it hard to grind for PvP gear.
no necklace,no cloak,no bracers,no rings and no trinkets. you still gotta do the dungeons
At least you don’t need to level up things like tailoring for bop chest piece.
Still I don’t see problem. Most people already accepted gdkp as ok in classic but grinding pvp gear somehow is not ok for you 
AV exalted reputation awards great ring and you get it before reaching rank 10.
PvP Cloak is also good, probably best in slot for AoE farming builds with its huge armor.
getting rank 10 is ez now yeah but still way easier to do dungeons than getting rank 10 like wtf u mean? 
how getting 10 people ready for UBRS is easier than standing afk in battlegrounds and moving your character once for each 5 minutes.
guess u haven’t done AV in a long time way easier to get 10 people to ubrs or maybe just don’t play on a low pop classic era realm?
like u do know that it takes weeks to get rank 10 right? 
meanwhile getting 10 people for ubrs at max takes 30-40min
i am in firemaw, and above rank 10, it was the easiest grind that i do so far.
Let me explain it for u in logic terms 3 weeks to get rank 10 or 30-40 min maybe less to find people for ubrs
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and even then the rank 10 gear is not that great again 2 set is good that’s it
Its better than bis pre raid. And it is not 3 weeks 7/24 grind, it is just 3 weeks of staying afk while watching movies unlike dungeons. Dungeons require someone to put effort. Someone for dungeon needs to form group, needs to travel to dungeon, needs to finish dungeon, and needs to be lucky enough to get some pre raid Bs. On the other hand, with afk grinding pvp gear someone can possess better items.
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like either u have two options wait 3 weeks to get decent gear or do ubrs etc with friends or other people like i rather do dungeons than spam some av still don’t get why u complaining tho
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I had full devout (except shoulders) from pugs within 36; hours of hitting 60 on my priest. Within 48 hours I had Purple neck from Argent dawn rep and Briathorn trinkets.
Within a mere 4 days (rl days not played time), I had some 0.5 tier pieces and some BiS off pieces from BWL.
How many pieces of PvP gear do I have? 0. When can I get some ? Next week, maybe, if I grind 150k honour to get rank 8. Then for the rest of the blues, a further week. For R14, I’d be looking at a further 7 weeks if I no lifed.
By contrast, I’ve already got my dungeon set pretty much and started raiding. In all likelihood I will have set foot in Naxx before I have a complete blue PvP set.
It is fine as it is with current changes. What is needed is for AB and WSG to be fixed
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Defines the whole PvP meta at the moment.
So what is wrong in pvping afk instead of dungeon grind if this is what people want? You don’t get overpowered gear in pvp that can’t be outdone by pve gear, so what if they grind r10 for 3 weeks? The moment they get to bwl they start farming t2/t2.5.
Not to mention that preraid bis is trash and has random. As warlock I couldn’t get preraid bis wand 4 month, when it dropped I already was doing aq40.
People with r10 are better doing in raid than trash preraid bis with no stamina, and make raid experience better for everyone.
and if they want r14 they will have to actually work on it.
You literally overestimate r10 and community. Most people are pvers and will just farm dungeons for preraid like usual.
Unlike gdkp r10 grind brings no harm
old yearly servers GKDKP everywhere, not much dungeon runs around, gettin R10 gear ez is not problem in my opinion
A potential solution could be to change to the version with the extra npc’s. This worked well in SOM as it slowed games down, made it easier to defend with smaller numbers which encouraged people to engage rather than rush to the boss
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Like again pretty simple up the honor in the two other bgs and more people will be starting to do them
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No, because av still alows no brain farming