If your goal is to finish the key in the fastest and easiest way then this is a stupid thing to do but if your goal is to gloat about being the top dps in the key regardless of failing/taking more time or even struggle, then congats ,you won!!
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A rogue, and 2 bm huntersā¦congrats top dps!
In other news, keys are great fun on my paladin and I plan on using it as a main for a while.
The alliance didnt want you and neither did the horde what even is a vulpera?
whatever my goal is, itās without paladins. Period
To be honest mate it sounds like a skill/mentality issue. They excel at aoe, so what, you should beat them out on boss damage. Itās not a single player game but a team effort. I have 2 friends playing ret paladin, Iāve been playing fire mage they woop me in trash packs but on the boss Iām either level or 100k behind on dps on a fire mage thatās in poo tier. Youāre a rogue your single target should completely out pace them on bosses.
Youāre entire argument seems to be cleave class is good at doing cleave and thatās not fair. Is their rotation braindead simple, yes, is it easy and effective, yes. But the game should be enjoyed as a game not a spreadsheet sim mate, do yourself a favour, delete details and just enjoy playing.
Buddy, Iām really tired of nonstop repeating myself. I donāt care how anyone feels about it, I donāt want a class as simple as ret to compete in damage in ANY type of content with higher skill-based classes. They are meant to be played by casuals, new wow players, and perhaps disabled people. Iām ok with them having fun ofc, but itās not fun for me to wrestle with such nonsense in dps meter. Thatās the whole thing, and it is the truth, because a 10 ilvl lower ret will do 3m on a pack as well, so Iām gearing up, and executing my rotation properly to compete with this? No thank you, play with your friends more, because I wonāt invite them in my keys until they fix this. Easy as that.
This whole post is based on your feelings about it all. Nothing else. Your ego got hurt when beat by a lesser geared player and the only reason he did so was that he played somewhat correctly and you screwed up.
But as this post has gone on and on its clear that you didnt screw up. You are playing your class sub par but still think you should beat that Ret in dmg. You are asking to be treated the same way you accuse Rets for being designed. This whole post is dipped in irony on what you are asking while being a hypocrite at the same time!
āYou lose! You get nothing! Good day sir!ā
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ret is in statistics about 10% behind in damage output, but the other classes canāt make a mistake while as ret, itās very hard to make mistakes. Iād make it 25% dif, or repurpose the class to bring more utility and offheals over the damage.
Lmao you must go to sleep at night having nightmares about ret paladins just let it up have you noticed how no one else agrees with a thing you have said ?
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I noticed the opposite actually, cuz I donāt count paladin opinions. They are irrelevant to me.
Iām pretty sure that deep down you are a Ret lover and you secretly want to reroll to a ret!
In some of Marvelās alternative universe, I might. And my current self would love to hunt that version of myself down.
Only to replace that version, like Wanda?
This is the problem, firstly this is selfish beyond measure, and second, Blizzard do care because they have to make more people happy than unhappy. Changing Ret will make more people unhappy than happy, so it makes no sense to them.
Time to reroll ret, and join a 5 paladin key, you know you want to.
if you canāt beat 'em (somehow, despite being on a rogue), join 'em
even if what you said makes sense to an extent. Blizzard is a delusional company, they canāt do tuning, and they have no idea what they are doing, you guys just got lucky for once. Thatās the truth
I will never play ret 
Iād rather pour bleach into my eyes, and Iād enjoy it more
Show me your logs. I dare you, link your logs from your own Rogue, and letās see how you perform. Iāll bet not a single one of you that say Rogue is easy to play, are actually producing good parses.
Iāll admit, Iām nowhere near the ātopā when it comes to mastering my rotation as an Assa-Rogue, but just to prove the point of this thread, Iāll level my Paladin to max (Iāve NEVER had a Pala at max level before), gear him up to 610 or something, and then compare both DPS and parses in M+ between the two.
If I end up being one Rogue looking like an idiot afterwards, so be it, but Iāll wager that itās gonna be about 20 reet-Palas that look dumb instead.
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You will suprise that ret is faster paced than assa in ST and need planning ahead what generator is available and best to use while tracking passive holy power generation and procs. Assa is slower paced very predictable and after an easy opener its just mutilate and envom spam while refreshing garrote every 18sec and rupture about once or twice a minute. And using simple cds every 2 and 1 minute. Id copy quicksim ability log but it isnt copy pastable.
And so what how rogue is? Most classes have very simple aoe and dps is well balanced atm most specs are performing super close eachother. Rogue assa fun is c tier in m+ doing much for little reward but thats not how most specs play.
Tell me you do not know how these things work without telling me you do not know how these things work.
You are actually failing to understand the most basic thing in the world.
the damage you see is based on real world players not theoretical robots.
meaning if you can not beat a ret you are just a worse player then the ret end of story.
That you do not understand this is just sad.
Yet you made this topic to FLAME you made this topic to Troll in the Paladin section of the forum.
You are showing how irrelevant you are by saything these things.
The only reason to make this topic is to be annoying.
Says the person who is literally commenting in the forum of another class to be annoying little dodohead.
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