If you play a retri paladin in pvp in phase four of Season of Discovery today, then you can just stun your enemy and you will win the 1 verus 1 battle. If Hammer of Justice is on cooldown, then you can just cast your bubble-spell and you will win. Is that fair? O_o
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what happens when bubble is on cooldown?
Pvp trinket, play orc, kite the ret? They have no gap closer. Just some ideas.
I did not play p4 yet but how does elemental shaman look. Can they still 2-3 gdc 100-0 from 30y? Or are all casters bad now. Genuine question
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Yeah they are quite oppressive.
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Good rets does that too now, you know kill ppl in a stun/bubble
C’mon at least post on your horde toon. And if paladins are so “busted”, explain this:
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They have a second bubble, np
they have a gap closer and a slow
I am not denying rets are strong and can blast with bubble up but most of the time I jus find myself getting blasted by shamans in av constantly
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still, learn what abilites paladins actually got.
Paladins coming to defend their busted class by pointing at shamans. You both need nerfs, stop deflecting.
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As if horde and shamans wouldn’t do the same regarding their broken racials and abilities, you ain’t sitting on a high horse here.
It’s blatantly obvious that shamans, AV horde favor and horde racials are all OP, yet the devs incompetence to literally adress all of those points is showing here clearly as if the sun would shine at night. A bloody disgrace this is for them.
Make bubble 5 second duration or make it to not be able to attack.
Pala has enough of toolkit to not be able to get kited. Range offensive abilities ,range stun ,repent, slow ,freedom, horsey.
But hey a shaman can kill them so they are fine. jeezz
thanks for agreeing
Sure if its true it is.
But today i saw a video of an afk hunter killin ret with just his pet.
Shows the average ret paladin IQ lol.(shows also how pu$$ies ppl are)
Should we call for hunters nerfs and pets next?
blizzard have already said that the game isnt going to be completely tuned to make everything as even as possible. Now its up to the playerbase if they want to play in an environment like that.
I get blasted by shamans constantly and I dont feel the need to come on the forums and say HEY BLERZERD, NERF SHERMERNSSS like all the mouthbreathers do and evidently, like all the horde are doing about paladins. Where are the horde players saying to nerf shamans, or the alliance saying to nerf paladins, people dont do that because they want these players on their side and it goes both ways
The thing is i am trying to be fair.I dont think Shamans are OP just because they can beat paladins.
I duel a lot outside ogr 1v1 etc. ive seen mages,rogues,hunters,warlocks and shadowpriests beat shamans, hell i’ve never lost to one enha or ele. So i dont find them op and i dont think they need nerf.
I find for example hunters to be able to feign death my drain life and cancel it super op 
but i am not crying about it, i try to work around it.
Rets for example i dont think they have problems vs other classes other than shamans(not talkin about rogues cause they smash every1).
Why do you even play SoD then? Go back to retail, if you dont like the classic experience, smh
It’s never on cooldown, if it is, you guys are coming with 4 healrs and 10 hunters. Just the usual paladin wheelchair playstyle.
Pvp trinket the stun? What you just explained is that paladins have 2 buttons to use which can be countered fairly easy by multiple classes. Shamans can grounding totem too, they can resist it with orc racial etc.
Bubble? Well pop spirit wolves, get sprint buff and run in a circle untill bubble ends?
Anything a paladin can do a shaman can do better, if you struggle with paladins… try playing alliance and enjoy fightning shamans.
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