Right I’ve avoided this all week. I’m going to give this a go this afternoon. I did do it fairly early on in Legion so not my first time.
Bookmark for my incoming rage posts in a few hours. 
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It’s different for different classes? And I didn’t actually equip it. I don’t need or want to show it off (My self worth isn’t attached to my skill at the game)
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I completed the challenge on this terrible alt in around 200 pulls.
You can check my gear. Most important was the ravaged seed pod, which is very easy to farm (1st boss of EN).
Undbridled fury is op, does so much damage.
So part 2, keep the boss at the center, pop the pod just before he starts attacking you, pot drums, eye beam, meta, eye beam.
He’s going to spawn the puddle so you slowly backpaddle back.
When adds spawn first time you can stay pretty close cause you have meta+drums. Chaos nova, glaive tempest, glaive slow. Try to hit all the adds and the boss with the eye beam.
Rest of the fight is all about slowly kiting the boss.
You need to be very gready, getting globals in when the boss casts the adds and even getting some damage from the puddle when you have meta and blur.
I optimized a lot and even then had no space left at end, would’ve died 1 second later.
I haven’t played havoc since bfa though, so a main will probably find it easier.
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2 hours and 29 tries in. I think this is beyond my puny skills. I can just about get to phase 1.5 with the shimmer but I am usually out of CDs etc when it goes back to destroying me with Frostbolt.
Watching Dratnos YT video he states you can leech through Frostbolt in meta and he does, it wrecks me I’m using the same talents and comparable consumables and I have more HP than him (6732 to 6894) . I’m confused and obviously not ‘l33t’ enough 
I’ll give some other classes ago that are apparently easier. Shame I main DH and it is the only one I care about,
I can usually do the solo challenges (5 masks visions, TC8 and og Mage Tower) not this time by the looks of it
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What’s crucial regarding P1 survival, is the timers. I did the OG Legion one aswell, and it was far easier.
What do I mean by that? You have 4 interrupt options. Your kick, imprison, fel eruption and chaos nova. You also have 2 strong defensives, blur and shadow. Most importantly, take unbound chaos for P1, and demonic appetite.
For example, if boss is 1 cast away from teleporting or razor nova, you don’t waste an interrupt. You save it for 2nd / 3rd frostball / arcane barrage. You have demon form up from eye beam? Don’t interrupt, save them for when you don’t. You know shadow barrage will come in a few? Don’t interrupt and wait for barrage (great time to get all cds back).
You have to find a balance for yourself here. Took me maybe 20 attempts, and now I’m regulary getting into P2 without issues. Just P2 I still can’t beat.
That seems to be my problem, the guides say don’t but I just don’t leech enough. I come out of demonic on 20% HP and there are not enough souls to heal. I’m sure the issue is me (story of my life). I’ll walk way for today and return in a day or two. I gave it two hours and I am not spending my Friday wiping.
Interesting you are taking so much damage. The issues you described, weren’t really affecting me. I had more problems with arcane phase - frost phase transition, where he is literally on the opposite side of the map, meaning 2x fel rush wasn’t enough. I figured out to just eat 1-2 either frost bolts or arcane barrages, and stand in the middle, so 2x fel rush would do the trick.
As I said, it is likely my lack of skill that is the problem. I am old enough and seasoned enough to realise my problem. I’ll study a few more videos and see if they is any more gear I can get (I have a few of the BiS items already) . The trinket from EN first boss has leech that might help (as mentioned by others)
The Tower felt like Dark Souls level of frustration and I have completed that (and DS3)
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Dunno never had a problem tbh i also completed it.
900 ilvl was overgearing it back in the day. ( it was equal to next tiers raid gear ilvl since it came out during Nighthold) There are ways to overgear it with sockets etc. i advise you to try that.
I never played healer before outside of this challenge first 5 attempts was for figuring out what the skills does ( not talking about mobs , i’m talking about mine lol) and i somehow managed to do it. After a point you will realize how scripted the fight is and it becomes a walk in the park. Only problem with it was fight was long. You had to do smoke breaks and i don’t think thats a good game design direction.
Also i finally got my 7/7 managed to complete healer one today and i will say excluding healing challenge nothing really felt overtuned (small edit : that is mostly cuz i never healed before). I do agree that Dh doesn’t have the same kit it does during legion and probably hardest dps challenge atm but is doable. Nerfs in his survivability is extremely noticeable tho.
If anyone knows… does Crusader proc more often if i enchant it on both my weapons? Might help with the healing if nothing else.
I only ever played ret as main, so not sure how classes with two 1 handed weapons work.
On arms warrior. It’s much more easily tuned for arms, and you also have execute to negate the dps check. Compare the video of arms warriors completing it vs. havoc DHs.
This is not true. When Mage Tower came out, the max ilvl was 907 roughly (legendaries were tuned to be 910). So 900 ilvl gear was the absolute standard when it came to completing them. People that had 890 and completed them were godlike. ‘Overgearing’ came in TOS with 925 ilvl, and with 7.3. when people roflstomped them with 950+.
I agree with that. But it’s just very unforgiving. That’s my point. For a healer challenge that lasts 20 minutes, making a small mistake for 1 second results in a wipe. The last phase is way too overtuned aswell, as it takes too long. Watch resto shamys do it, at the end, they were standing in green goo (you run out of space).
Congrats on your achievment! No, I’m not stating it’s impossible or anything, not at all. But I think the rewards are abit too lackluster for content to be so overtuned. And someone that actually completed them all at their OG version, I find it abit too overtuned. I could push P1 easily before survivability nerfs aswell, because it’s strictly mechanical. But me not being able to push P2 because I don’t have EN trinket, garrosh heirlooms and so on, is just out of touch.
So why didnt you do it back in legion
for phase 1 go buy 2 green weapons ilvl 50 and enchant them with crusader, it helps a lot.
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I’ll give that a try thanks.
I completed it with havoc dh lmao. I wouldn’t write i also completed it if i did it with different spec 
Sorry to say that but 900-910 ish ilvl was overgearing it. I remember it like yesterday. When it came out , average gear was 880-885 ish. Only mythic raiders had that gear you mentioned and yes like you said with antorus people stomped it with +920 gear from lfr.
My general problem with last phase was lack of practice tbh. I killed it on my 4th time reaching the last phase ( excluding first and second phases only talking about last phase). First 3 was learning. I don’t really like the healing challenge.
Thank you but like i said you don’t really need those. It’s just unforgiving. You really need to time your cds perfectly or it’s a really tight fight. Btw today i also completed arms one to compare both specs and yes havoc is way harder then arms. This kinda shows how much the spec got nerfed since Legion.
Havoc is a spec that is not complete without borrowed power. Legion artifact and legiondaries were completing the spec and after Legion dh just became a azerite / essence proc machine and now without sl conduit/legos it just feels naked while playing.
I oneshottet that encounter the first time i went in with my demonhunter the same way as i did it with in legion.
Demonhunter is legit DUPLO mode vs Xylem compared to arms warrior
You should realy read your spells. And no i didnt have gear or sockets or buff bood. i did it just like that with the 2 abilities demonhunter has
Edit: you know you can cheat out of phase 1 by just doublejumping right? and Phase 2 is a complete joke with double fellrush aswell right?
And honestly if you not managing phase 3 thats like saying you dont know what your PvE rotation is.
sorry no offense, i know some people just buy boosts since WoW token got implemented in WoD. I just think its as easy as in legion when it got released
Fair enough, I just saw your warrior transmog and assumed you did it here only
Man, this is not true. Not trying to get into an argument with you, but your memory isn’t the best. Legion was notorious for titanforging, and even people that were doing normal NH, maybe first few bosses of NH HC, had 2 910 legendaries (once we did the campaign), were around 900. Average gear was not 880 - 885, it was impossible to do it with such ilvl, expect for few individuals. Go look some videos and you will see that you forgot abit. And even after tons of posts, Blizzard said that they originally tuned the MT for TOS gear, meaning 915-925. Even with 920 gear from Antorus, it wasn’t really roflstompable. Roflstomp mode came after 940 levels, which was easy to obtain since you had 2x 1000 ilvl legendary, and normal mode gear that titanforged from 935 to anything up to 960 really, which was heroic, and to mention, first 5 of Antorus were easy mode on heroic aswell. You mixed it a little bit man.
But lack of practice is something I understand. I’m talking purely numerical point of view. I’m fine with it being mechanically difficult, but playing perfectly and getting stomped by puddles towards the end, is just not great.
I would consider P1 harder on arms tbh, due to selfhealing? Or am I wrong? Just P2 is way better for arms due to better output. As you’ve said, the borrowed power is what DHs stand on, and it’s a shame actually. I feel naked in there (conduits help so much, corruptions did in 8.3. and so on…) Otherwise, incredibly bland specc.
I don’t believe a single word you say 
I saw multiple streamers, cutting edge players who wiped and wiped over and over on Xylem as havoc DHs, and you expect me to believe you that you oneshotted both? Give me a break kid. Also l2read, I never mentioned anything regarding P1 and P2. Read what i’m saying and then get back.
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Dude you should ask players that can actually play the game OFF SCRIPT. LIKE PVP’ERS. go into the pvp section of oribos and you will see 90% of them running arround with the sets because its litterally zero effort for players that dont rely on addons for everything to get. Big LUL on you what you believe and what not.
I saw a lot of priest streamers desperatly failing on the mage-tower, yet why does llitteraly every 2k+ priest have the set? Dont kid yourself man
Yes. I oneshottet it in legion aswell. It is easy once you’ve done it as arms warrior, which i btw also managed to do but it was a hassle for multiple reasons such as cleaving the stones where you can just jump as DH.
Nah i just assume you dont even understand how to play P1 if you think its hard, because its litteraly just DPS stresstest after that lol
Don’t switch the subject. I never said it’s a hassle to obtain, as every single class has 1 easy specc to do it. I just don’t believe you that you 1 SHOTTED it, as I’ve seen CUTTING EDGE players wiping on it. You again only see what you want to see, and can’t read anything other properly.
Let’s see some proof there If you actually prove you 1 shotted it, i’ll take everything back 
Your assumptions are as valid as your arguments, meaning they aren’t really worth anything I never said it’s hard, you once again fail to understand words I’m writing. I just said that the Shadow’s hp is abit overtuned, nothing else. I never argued regarding anything mechanically, so don’t assume something you have no idea about.
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DW complainers, they will definitely cave in to your complain nerfs.
Just not the first time around, that won’t happend til event is only up for 1 week (when it comes back again end of April next year)