We can when that Satyr is fighting for his own selfish reasons.
Satyrs don’t like the Horde and Alliance. They are corrupted elves. Emphasis on the “corrupted” part.
Because satyrs don’t like us
We are not being stubborn though. Demon Hunters are anti-heroes and still fight for the good of all. They are fueled by the souls of demons but they are not fully demons themselves.
It is not because they are demons that Satyrs are not part of the Alliance but because Satyrs are evil and do not like the Alliance.
They barely accept DHs, heck they exiled Illidan simply for saving Ashenvalle by absorbing the skull of Gul’dan. Any Satyr getting close would either be forced to be cleansed (after proving themselves a changed person) or killed otherwise.
I’ve stated many times before there is something that needs to be done about Night Elves and their lost population, redemption is the new brand way of doing it and yeah old Night Elves were pretty stubborn about such things but the new ones after genocide will act more reasonable without doubt, Shandris Feathermoon says in a quest in Vol’dun “Races does not matter, we are all equal” this is a proof of changed perspective towards races, whether it be a Demon, they are not so conservative towards other races anymore. You guys must be careful while doing quests.
Why should they do anything to fill their lost population with some bull💩? Void Elves are just one of many groups of genocided Elves and still have no problems at all. And who the heck want to play this race except of you. They look like an uglier version of male Night Elves and there is nothing worser than male Night Elves.
Erm, no. Blackhorn tricks the player into releasing him, it was never anyone’s intention to set him free. He only “helped” us because he needed the ashes from the fire elemental for his ritual.
He then goes on to say this:
Thank you, mortal! Your heroism in the Inferno has made my escape possible. As a reward, I will allow you to live. But your time will come soon enough. Yes, mortal. Soon enough…
Yea I also said “in exchange for his freedom” and did u ever see Blackhorn again after that?No. Sometimes living can spread such threats in order to defend themselves which is only an instinctual move or action made to protect themselves. He did not try doing something evil after he escaped the prison, so it is not right to call him %100 evil, how can you call someone %100 evil since his wish of living in freedom.
It isn’t in “exchange for his freedom” at all. He double crosses the player. If he didn’t need the elemental ash he wouldn’t have done any of it. We have no idea what he did after escaping, but he shows no indication of having changed his tune since the whole Archimonde thing - You’re applying characteristics to him that he never exhibits.
I get that you’re into them as a race, but Blackhorn is just not an example of a good-guy Satyr. A better one would be Avrus Illwhisper from Ashenvale or (the late) Priestess Driana from Aszuna; both of them repent.
The problem you then have is that when Satyrs repent, they get turned back into Nelves again.
And for you dear DemonHunter you are answering this like an Atheist stating an opinion related to a religious concept, which clearly seems biased.
You have more reasonable stataments Solithrien but let me answer.Blackhorn is just as good as DemonHunters. They joined us because they failed at doing what they were trying to do in Burning Crusade expansion, when they failed they decided to co-operate with us because of our common goal, so DemonHunters became an ally because we would make it easier for them to take revenge, basically they helped us only because they thought it was beneficial. Why did Blackhorn helped us?Because it was also beneficial for himself.Whether it be something abstract or concrete their motivation in being an ally was the same.
Briefly DemonHunters joined us because it would be beneficial for them, Blackhorn helped us because it would be beneficial for him the other Satyrs would act in the same way also no doubt. Races in World of Warcraft are inclined to act with pragmatism.
For the other part of your statement, Satyrs don’t have to repent, like Illidan they can just say “I am my scars” and keep living with their form. They can just be the slacker boys-girls they always were and be a part of New Night Elf community.
I just answered your ideas with the same logic you use, why are you getting salty about it .
This is my idea, I support idea of Satyr Allied race and have my reasons to support it, it might be dumb for you but for many other people they might agree with me and might think your ideas are the dumb ones. I just wanted to open this to discussion and we discussed to some extent. Now when people search on google as “New Allied Race WoW” they will see this too and it is possible for me to have more supporters.
Satyr looks really cool in contrary to Naga and seems more reasonable in my opinion. You don’t have to agree with me on this but I also don’t have to agree with you, everything you said has a solution to it, this is a FANTASY WORLD . Just don’t talk like it is impossible for something like this to come real.
Not really, he knew he was going to die there along with you, so he sent you to collect items and fooled you into thinking he would help you, only for you to realise he played and used you to allow him to escape.
They have 1 demon soul in them and they fight to maintain control over their body to prevent the demon from taking control.
They’ve also been heavily sidelined now that Legion is finished and will likely never be a plot element ever again.
Not to mention some satyrs have aligned themselves with Old Gods which is why the whole Emerald Nightmare is still a thing.
I love that OP states something needs to be done about the night elves and their lost population, using an out of context quote during the war campaign as proof lol. I can’t think of a worse way to go about restoring population considering satyrs are selfish and known to be super manipulative lol.
Their description is; “satyrs corrupt lands and drain its magic. They feed off its purity, leeching and corrupting.” They are basically everything night elves are against. There is no way night elves would ever willingly accept satyrs into the Alliance.
Well, the word “never” it should never (excuse me the joke) be said into a game like WoW, wich have an evolving lore, when we talk about features that wouldn’t break the game balance, like the Allied Race system.
I mean, WoW Lore it’s always expanding, till Burning Crusade we always believed that Sargeras and the Burning Legion would have been the most evil enemy into this universe, and then we heard about these Voidlords, and finding that the Burning Legion wasn’t SO evil as we thought (yes it was in the actions, but their motivations was kinda noble, for some subjects), you get what i’m pointing at. At this point, i wouldn’t even be surprised if we find these Voidlords are not so Evil and we then fight the Naarus instead (wich we already knows are not so friendly as we believed).
Now, i’m not saying that Blizzard will eventually release the Satyrs as an Allied Race, but there is the potential for alot of races in this feature, and as already said above, WoW Lore is always evolving, if Blizzard want to make a redemption story for any kind of actual evil race, and if will find a decent way to justify it, be sure they will do it
But we still got Undead Night Elves for the Horde which literally destroy nature and support scource methods. Bull**** imo. Damn, the Horde even tried to ally themselves with San’layn. Good that they failed to not consume their allies.
Well, i wouldn’t say exactly that, as far as i remember by playing the Alliance during the Beta, the Horde never really allied them with the San’layn, they just offered them a spot on the horde allowing them to have a future, but only at the Horde’s conditions. I’m not sure if that would have happened even in the case the Alliance wouldn’t have done anything about it, each side wanted their own conditions, and the San’layn wasn’t really acting like accepting the Horde ones, so…well, we will never know it lol
Not so much if you want to make a game that constantly evolve and always up to date, if the old lore wouldn’t has been changed at all / been upgraded, WoW would have been done time ago, we could completely skip MoP and WoD expansion, Legion would have been maybe the last TBC major patch (but without any mention to the Voidlords because that’s a new plot), and Cataclysm would have integrated on itself the major Azshara patch with N’zoth too.
So, basically:
Classic
TBC + Legion patch
WotLK
Cata + BfA patch (Naga and N’zoth plots)
I mean new plots are needed if you want to create a game that’s basically intended to keep going with no eta about its ending.
I wouldn’t say that i would be happy if Satyrs will get some kind of a redemption story and will become playable (i don’t like how they look tbh), but i don’t care if the thing will happen with sense into based on how WoW lore will be evolved. As said WoW Lore always evolve, and alot of things of the very old WoW lore are now considered non-canon (i’m talking about the very old wow table RPG codex, or how it was called).
Dude if you were a character in World of Warcraft universe you would be Scarlet Crusade Member since you are a bigot.
Some people here and I am telling you this, World of Warcraft is a 15 years old game and its lore has been evolving throughout this time and some things that people thought that will never change has changed, because it had to change. Lore and the game cannot stay stable and the same for 50 years, we always need changes here. Some changes may be bad or some may turn out to be good but enabling such a race to use is an idea worth trying IMO. They gave us Pandarens before and it was a failure because it looked too good and harmless, gnomes, dwarves (females especially) I mean less preferred races belong to Alliance, we do not have variety of races to use people generally stick to Humans > Night Elves > Draenei (Lightforge or not) > Void Elves > fat Humans (Kul’tirans) now. We basically lack 1-2 interesting races compared to Horde side. Horde race preferences are more balanced compared to Alliance. Alliance needs 1 more intriguing race at least in order to compensate the unpopularity of little guys.
I have no doubts that Satyr will take its place among the most popular races and most prefered races in the Alliance side. I think of it as a good opportunity to make Night Elves relevant and interesting race, they have always been too predictable lorewise for 10 years, if they accept such unexpected idea Night Elves can once again become an interesting race for many people.
And you are right, i just got a notification from you “attacking” me on how much i offended yourself and your intellect, and that’s a thing i never did, so you can understand my reaction i believe
Again, i got the notification, so i assumed you was talking with me instead of the OP
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