New classes

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  • First of all, I would like to see all of the classes we saw in that survey added to the game, each with 3-4 specs. Game is too slow when it comes to bring new classes. Years are passing, we are getting old and all we get is 1 class, 1 new race in such long time gaps.

  • I don’t worry about class balances, because class balance issues already exist, no matter they add more classes or not, it exists, and it will exist always, they just need to make a bigger team for class balances. That’s it.

  • More classes means more colors, more taste for everyone. I like my favorite game to be rich in every way, i like when my game have something for everyone. So it is a big YES from me. Bring many more classes each with 3-4 specs.

  • Also an idea, just like how we have “only dps” classes in all specs, for example mage, they have 3 specs and all of them are damage. Another example is hunter, full damage. I would like to see some classes they are “only healer” or “only tank” aswell. They can also have 3-4 spec options, each with different skills, different animations etc, that would be great i think.

Why would they wait us 4 years… That is very long time. I would like to see 2 new classes each year instead, or 1 class and 1 new spec for already existing classes.

  • Also if i needed to vote which of those classes to see in the game first, i would go for:

    1. Tinker
    2. Bard
    3. Witch
    4. Gunner
    5. Prismatic
    6. For the rest order doesn’t matter for me.

  • Other than those classes in the survey, i would love a fairy-like class.

  • Also please add tank spec for Shamans!

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Aug 2.0 will never happen.

Mage says hello.

Hunter says hello. (Give marksman a gun, you have a gunner)

The others? What do they actually bring that doesn’t exist anyway in some form?

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All i want in this game is Scanlan Shorthalt.

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A bard would be much different than all of the existing classes in WoW right now. First of all we would need to see a new weapon in the game, some kind of instrument weapon. It’s animations would include music notes. Not even comparable to Aug.

Bliz loves sticking to story when it comes to bringing new races and classes. Mages can’t have those magics of witches. A witch would be using alchemy tube like skills, toxic magic, curses, curses, spiritual connection buff/debuffs, decay, some kind of woodoo doll skill etc etc. So no, Mage doesn’t fit in that category at all.

I was once a main hunter, and i like its gun mogs, but even when i play with guns, a hunter is still a hunter, it doesn’t make me feel like i am playing a gunner at all. Only explosive shot felt me like gunner and thats it. Even skill icons are drawn for a bow user, not for a gun user. But if you say a 4th spec for hunters “gunner” with bullets, explosives, guns, heavy gun skills and all, then that could be okay for me.

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It might look different but bards have always been a support, and Aug proves support doesn’t work, hence I wrote Aug 2.0.

Marksman could evolve into a gunner spec with minimal changes. As it’s already supposed to be a sniper spec.

I don’t know enough about witches so I’ll give you that one.

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I once played monk and some ability icons are drawn to look like a Pandaren in terms of paws and faces of a Pandaren.

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If they removed dps from the game things would be better - just have everyone tank or healer with comparable dps (tanks spend resources to survive over dps while healers spend gcds for the same).
Then people wouldn’t want new all the time because they’d have left the game since they only ever dps.

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I would like a dual pistol class/spec. It’s just cool or double xbows.

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A good old western style gunslinger.
Generally something western style.

I think it’s crazy that an American company didn’t do anythything western related in 20 years

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Bards doesn’t have to stick with only support, you’re wrong in that. A metal singer spec can be a burst dmg class(it even exists already in the game, we have a rock star boss in darkmoon island lol). Check AION Online for some damage and support bard class ideas.

i would like to see it in the game some day, 4th spec, GUNNER! :sparkling_heart:

well the connection between Pandaren race and Monk class is understandable since both are related with Pandaria (: totally understandable to have some icons drawn that way :smiley:

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Ideas like this should be a bannable offense on these forums.

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I think people have the wrong idea of what a support spec is supposed to do because Aug does it all.

There could be other types of support focused entirely around damage increasing, which doesn’t enter healer’s territory.

That is just an opinion, the reality is that the game already has a support on it and it will stay forever, whether you like it or not.

Not really, all you have to do is balance said support so it increases the damage as equitably for all DPS rather than having Aug which synergies better with 2 min CDs and stuff like that.

Did an Aug hurt you? :rofl:

The concept was good, the execution not so much.

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Why? 10/chars

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Technically yes, lorewise it’s very different to magics warlocks operate…
Though affliction is basically death caster lmao

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Based

I want healspec for warlock
But problem is i think creating and balancing specs for all existing classes will be much more difficult than creating a new class, they can of course add them slowly like “first war rogue and pally, then next patch mage, druid, monk” but wow’s community is full of manchilds with constant feeling of victim syndrome and of course they will take blizz not choosing their class as offense

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I’ve always thought about Tinker more like a profession and not a class.

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Eh, it’s engineering.

Since I see Tinker can make something attack thing like weapon or bombs.

Tinker and engineering are different

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For me Tinker is just an engineer who would have vehicle items… which sounds horrible.

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Yes. Correct.

But you cannot compare something like “mark of the wild” that gives 3% vers to a whole spec who has 70% of its damage component coming from buffs.

And my main point back in DF with Aug was to show people how many problems and head-aches these minor “3%” buffs already give to the general gameplay.

And that is also known, because Blizzard toyed arround with “raid buffs” for many, many years. They have wanted to make specs “special” by giving them good buffs, only to realize that it disrupts compositions and groups so much that it needs to be nerfed back. And that is why we only have minor things like “3% vers” instead of “+10% vers” (for example).

And then they had the magnificent idea to make a spec ONLY about OP raid buffs…

What were they expecting ?

NO. You are implying that spec talent and design should be ALWAYS limited by the degree of synergy with Aug (or other support specs) ?

Look, what Aug does is “buff” A spec. What that means is that in a world where spec balance is impossible to acheive, where there will ALWAYS be 1 spec that is slightly better than the rest, all Aug does is multiply that by more.

Support specs only work in a world where DDs can live in perfect ballance. And that will never exist.

All blizzard can do with spec balance is get it as close as possible to “even” such that only the top 0.001% of high keys actually care about spec performance.

Exodia comp from S2 DF is a prime example of what failing in spec balance looks like: A comp that was 50%, 60% more performant than ANY other comp at the time. Which meant that even those doing a +5 key cared about spec comp.

All Aug does is multiply that disparity between specs. So Blizzard literally shoot themselves in the foot by allowing Support Specs.

And FYI: This is the exact same problem other games also found out the hard way with Support Specs. And they also failed for the same reasons.

Yes. For 4 seasons in a row, group comps were: Get the the 1 FOTM DPS spec, get an Aug to turn a FOTM spec into an OP FOTM spec, a Tank that can buff said FOTM spec with more buffs, and a healer that can buff it even further… And then, a 3rd DD to buff even further.

And Aug double dips on all those buffs ontop of buffs (because in WoW buffs are multiplicative)… Add on top the defensive capabilities of Aug in a “one-shot” dungeon pool mechanics…

That was so performant, that if you were not a spec in that “exclusive group” you would have a much harder time playing M+. Across the board.

And now that Aug dosent exist, even streamers are talking about a possible “two comp meta”. Which menas, that there are other specs close behind the “meta comp”. Because there is no Aug double dipping on buffs…

Which means that people (in general) are more open to accepting other specs.

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When Blizzard manages to balance the existing classes appropriatelly we can talk.

When was the last time you saw a HPala, or a BM tank?

And you want to add a healer spec for Warlock? How about when blizzard manages to make Warlocks competitive with mages (for example) in M+ first. But they dont manage to even make the 3 existing warlock specs do equivalent DPS. There is always 1 that is trash, 1 nobody plays and 1 everyone plays.

It has been this way since 2004, so I have 20 years of proof of their failures. Against your “hopium”.