Who said they are a Different race? They are all Thalassians and speak Thalassian.
That is very very Correct. But, Blizzard said that BOTH Blood elves and Void elves are getting High elf customization.
I don’t like that I have to share my (Void elf) along with High elf fans, but that’s blizzard’s decision and I’m ok with that.
It was always intended anyway, seeing as we have two racial leaders (Alleria and Umbric)
What did they already have? Balding hair for the men? No Black hair color? Even (Void elves) are lacking.
But I agree High elf fans got many new stuff.
How is that insulting to Belfs? Are you gonna kill Alleria, Vereesa, and the Silver covenant for Allying with the Alliance? It was Blizzard that made this Thalassian race loyal to the Alliance, and thus the request for them was very high.
It’s amazing having a Thalassian elf race in the Alliance be playable. It feels like the good old days of wow.
It’s not like Blood elf’s are gonna lose the spotlight considering they have better customization and they own Quel’thelas (one of the most beautiful areas of the game along with Suramar)
Honestly this whole conversation is childish. If this is the Horde Community I thought about transferring to, then I change my mind…
Because they are introduced as one, they come with their own set of racials. Or do you mean by lore, cause if you do then yeah they are the same race only voidy. So you don’t really need blonde hair, do you?
Basically for Belfs that means just blue eyes, for velfs it would mean blue eyes, fair skin and light hair. Bit too much especially considering they are copying belfs. And did blizzard really say that? I’ld like to read it myself if you can provide a link please.
You certainly got more than any other allied race.
Well I’d cap Vereesa at any moment on the basis of being an anti belf plot device that’s there only to get angry at belfs and repeatedly affirm her love for the Alliance and the human potential.
The good old days of wow that never existed. Belfs came with BC and ever since then you have been lusting after them so I’m not sure what you are talking about here.
Yeah I am curious how long after the helfers get their hair will they start demanding they get ownership of those areas, you know, cause they have been asking for it for a long time. So considering the model was cloned, now the skin, demands for the hair too, yeah, belfs totally stand to lose nothing…
Oh? Someone disagreed with you and you got upset so you are not gonna join the Horde any more? The sadness… Spare me the “im insulted it’s your loss” routine.
Let’s say you played a blood elf (in which case, your desire for blood elf uniqueness migh have made some sense). You make a blood elf character, and want it to be unique. All good. You use the options you prefer, and maybe work on finding a cool transmogrification set. Sweet.
Now, with a little bit of effort, I can make an identical blood elf, down to every detail. You and I don’t play together, and I find it unlikely that we ever will. So what would it matter to you if my character that looks like yours is Horde or Alliance? How would it affect your feeling of uniqueness? The answer is that it wouldn’t. It’s a perceived idea with no practical impact on you.
Now, I don’t argue for all identical features for Horde blood elves and Alliance high/void elves. Available features should represent a sort of average for a playable race’s population, and very few high elves have fel green eyes. Also, some of the more iconic hair styles fit the Horde blood elves better, while I imagine styles from other Alliance races might fit the high elves better. And some styles ought to be shared across the two. This way, the desire to remain factionally unique (even how weird I personally find it) is met, while those who want to look like what their opposite faction kin can, are able to do so.
Another question I’ve asked, but those against playable high elves refuse to answer is this: With the coming void elf skin and eye options, what will a blood elf player have lost? How will their playing experience be diminished?
So your logic there is that because two belf characters might look identical therefore making me feel less unique yeah. I’m not sure what messed up logic you used to get to the conclusion that further diminishing whatever uniqueness is left by increasing the possibility of running into identical characters on the other faction too. Only a helfer would draw on this logic and call it common sense. Please know that if I hadn’t heard this bs before I’d be amused and please believe me I’ve heard it all before. Including your question that is answered in the context of the above mentioned discussion so considering your response, me telling you that people might find it inconvenient that a race that is supposed to be unique for all intents and purposes has been pawned off to the other side piece by piece, which would require you to empathize with those people and you can’t do that, because all you want is a belf clone on the blue side. So spare me the rhetorical questions, ok?
Simply that if I make a character that looks like yours, what faction it’s on shouldn’t matter to you. I realise you’re having trouble grasping this. I wouldn’t be making more characters looking like yours, I’d just play them in more places where you’re unlikely to even meet them. If you played a blood elf, that is.
I realise that this point is uncomfortable for you, seeing as it’s true and basically renders all your points against high elf options invalid. I’m sorry that this issue causes you this kind of distress.
Not when they’re relevant to the subject. If you don’t want to see it, I suggest you log off the forums.
You telling me how I should think? That’s very presumptuous of you.
Ok so let’s look at this logically, yeah? You pick a race on a faction you have no choice but to share features with the people picking the same race, in that respect you are unique outside the parameters of that race, being that no other race is identical. Get it? So why exactly would I be ok with further diminishing that uniqueness, just cause you think I should? Does not work like that.
No need to apologize. Or to get an attitude. I’m just pointing out that tired tactic won’t work on me because of extreme over-use by your types. If you actually had a sincere question and not the helf justification rhetoric, I’d be happy to answer, but seems like you fellas are not very creative. I mean not surprising given you are trying to imitate an existing race.
And another typical helfer reply. “If you don’t agree with me stop talking so blizzard might mistake silence for acceptance”. How about no?
I quite like the helf skin option but dont really care for helf/belf hair color i would rather see more void elf colors hair option and more hair option in general.
It think blizzard should add way more option for all races especially nb
I’m not telling you what you should think. I’m telling you that if you think it matters, you’re wrong. You’re free to be wrong, of course. You have been in most of your comments here, after all. You do you.
It gets repeated because it’s both true and ignored by people arguing against high elf options. It will continue to be repeated as long as it’s needed.
As opposed to your “Spare me the rhetorical questions” which don’t aim to silence anything? I didn’t ask you to be silent. If you want to silence me, however, I can only interpret that as your inability to handle what I say, in which case a break seems reasonable.
Wrong according to who or what? Your authority? I think not.
It’s neither true, because any answer is wrong by default as you cannot empathize and therefore see things differently from any other perspective. Therefore it’s a rethorical statement meant to shut down discussion not have it and it’s pretty amusing given that you are the ones that should be asking everyone else to agree and AT LEAST should have the decency to respect people’s choice not to, instead of trying to shut them down and taking an attitude.
A rhetorical question is not meant to be answered, genius, or rather the person asking it is not interested in any answer someone else might have.
It makes me sad how people are keep requesting for stuff and in the end all their hopes will be shattered. There are no more options coming. 8 builds later and nothing for any race. And they never said more will come. They said if they want to add they can much easily now. That’s all they said
The problem with that, is that people are looking at this wrong. Whilst I don’t mind the whole hair colours thing, people keep forgetting that Void Elves are the race here. People are demanding Blood Elf stuff left right and centre, and Blizzard already did a climbdown and did some of it, what was the result?
The actual basic race of Void Elves with Void Themes got almost no customisation. All the effort went into making them look like High Elves. Thats pretty shocking really, for people who were hoping for Void Elf customisation. -That- is where the Hypocrisy is, High Elf Fans demanding more options, which will inevitably mean less options for the Void Elves because they want their Legolas fantasy. That is simply not fair on Void Elf players.
You really can’t. Skin colour yes, but you’ll be using a Night Elf model, so a completed product with more than three variants, as opposed to the incomplete Nightborne who look nothing like the NPC members of their species and have 3 face options. Seriously, the Nightborne model is that bad…
Slips History nerd hat on
Perhaps it is just a cultural thing? Some cultures in our real world were like that, remember those uber macho Spartans? Hardest warrior city state in the world? The men all had long hair, and the women tended towards shorter hair, Long hair was macho, short hair was effeminate (as were beards, no, I don’t know how that works) Before Battle Spartan warriors would spend time braiding each other’s hair for battle. The Film 300 really got a few things wrong, for a start Gerard Butler should not have had a beard, should have had long flowing locks, and should have been in his sixties! (The age Leonidas’s bones have revealed he was at the time of Thermopylae)
Maybe it just is a cultural thing that Thalassian males have longer hair than women?
Takes history nerd hat off
Wait, I’m confused, so it is not about the Racials then, like people have been saying for the last year? or do Alliance still want the Racials changing as well? Oh, and the increase to Warmode bonus to 50% Oh and the Moon on a Stick?
There is no end when it comes to Alliance player demands, its embarrassing sometimes. I mean heck, there is no end to High Elf Fans demands that does not mean the removal of Blood Elves from the game and them to have Silvermoon. I mean yes, that is the lunatic fringe, but that is also demands made.
I don’t think these new customisations High Elf Fans are getting (Because Void Elf fans are getting jack all, oh the irony) will stop any perceived faction imbalance. The people who want to play High Elves are already doing it, using human models, kaldorei models, and now mostly Void Elf models. A few will jump ship, but most people playing Blood Elves will keep playing Blood Elves, because Blood Elves being in the Horde is -interesting-.
I doubt even that. Most Blood Elf roleplayers are playing Elves -because- they are in the Horde. We don’t -want- to play Alliance, If I wanted Goody two shoes elves I would play Lord of the Rings Online, I don’t want Tolkien, I want real Elves from myths and legends, things of spite and blood and terror.
Remember she is unique, and whilst is -called- a Void Elf, 100% was not created the same way as the playable Void Elves were. It’s a Sylvanas/Normal Forsaken thing, and the Forsaken playerbase never got that option…
To be honest, I don’t care, let the alliance get -some- Blood Elf stuff, just not -all- of it like some are demanding. Save it up in the Blizz Bank and remind people in the future when the Horde gets something a bit nicer that this was just payback. (I’m joking)
No, but there is a reason why not.
Because that then means that Every customisation given to Void Elves as a playable race is all about not being a Void Elf. Which is just ridiculous.
Ehhhh, I think that ship sailed with Durzaan’s ritual, their DNA (not that Wow denizens necessarily know what DNA is) has been utterly warped by the entropic powers that afflicted them to the extent that it has changed the colour of their -Blood-. Their basic cellular structure has been altered because of that freakish experiment went wrong. Personally I’d regard them as mutated Thalassians, rather than a separate Species, but not necessarily mutants in a cool X-men way, just…changed…
Alleria can stay, Vereesa and the Silver Covenant need to stand trial for War Crimes.
Basically my point here is that the thread Title is “New Customisation option for Blood Elves and Void Elves” but thats not what it has become is it? It has become yet another High Elf thread. The Void Elves are already getting nothing at the expense of the High Elf fans, now yet more is being requested to make them into High Elves. Where are the Customisations for Void Elves?
That’s true. I’m quite aware of what your answer would have been, since we’ve danced this dance a few times already. My point, though, is that you wouldn’t actually lose anything.
I get that, but it’s really not a matter of either or. You’re quite familiar with the playable high elf request, and know that I was originally against high elf options for void elves because I would have preferred to see high elves as their own thing. Now, we’re getting high elf options for void elves, and standalone high elves are no longer plausible, so I’ve chosen to shift my focus to what is.
A few posts up, I’ve linked to some truly void elf customisation fan art by Silverleaf, hich I think would have been amazing for our void elves. With the two-in-one compromise that void elves with high elf options are becoming, I personally would like to see both, but seeing as I’m quite satisfied with my void elves at the moment, (Azrathel looks awesome!) I’m now focusing on supporting the high elf options, so that it will feel less like a compromise, and more like actual playable high elves.
As I said before I don’t care about the high elf options but I’m not opposed the hair colors. We are at 95% might as well go with that 5% and make it 100%. If the skin and hair will be the closing door to the high elf requests I’m honestly hoping they will add them some day. But for now it’s 100% no new options are coming.
Well you haven’t really had any point to be honest. It’s mostly you saying you want something and that’s pretty much it. However if you had payed attention, which you have not, you would be aware that being copied results in a total loss of uniqueness. But that just sild off you like water off a duck.
What? I don’t see the Forsaken standing trial for war Crimes. Gilneas, Teldrassil, etc.
If you haven’t noticed, Jaina and Lor’themar put aside their past to focus on Azshara.
Vereesa during Legion was sent to get Thas dorah (Hunter artifact) Lor’themar sent a Blood elf to help her, but he died during the expedition. Vereesa said…” I need to bring the sad news to Lor’themar” or something like that. I’m pretty sure they put aside their past, but Still have different Political and factional views.
None of the Allied races are… Because their turn haven’t come yet. But I agree I would love to see more Voidy edgy stuff because that is the main reason why I love Void elves, only I hate that they lack black hair (ultimate Edgy hair color)
Agree to disagree. Alleria’s appearance doesn’t stop her from being a Void elf.
There is a reason we got two Aesethic looks, and there is a reason we have two racial leaders.
I agree with this. Getting (ALL of it) is irrational and I don’t support it. But asking for a few hair colors (black, white, and maybe blonde) is fine with me and matches the Void aesethic too.
And I just told you how we can copy one another’s characters anyway. Nobody is guaranteed to be unique, and having characters similar to you on the opposite faction would lower the risk of you even meeting them. But that just sild off you like water off a duck.
And I just told you that can’t be helped but you keep missing the point on purpose to justify the logic that if two members of the same specific race can look the same than somehow in your head that makes it ok for Blizzard to make other races look like that race. Again, I’m not seeing any logic here at all.
And I don’t see your problem. What’s the logic that makes same faction twins okay, while opposite faction twins would ruin your game?
And why not just mog to faction specific gear, or choose from the features we’ve clearly stated we don’t want for Alliance high elves, if it’s that important?