New epic bg where it will possibly be a failure?

Blizzard don’t even ban bots anymore. Don’t use that as defense.

Uhm, yes they do.

Show me some recent banned pvp bots

Of course there are. Group size is restricted to 5.

We all know that Blizzard bans in waves. Let me guess you exclusively fight against “bots” as well everytime you lose? Like always against premade?

You think a monk running around in perfect circles around a base flag in Blitz for 15 mins uninterrupted isn’t a bot? There is literally video evidence of tnis. Bots aren’t hard to kill, they just exist.

Bots existing is no evidence of them not getting banned eventually. As far as premades go. They exist for years now. No bans.

I would very much like to play epic battlegrounds, but sync premades are the reason I won’t touch them.

And believe me, there are lots of players who do the same.

What you do instead? 5-man queue into normal BG’s? lol

It’s hard to play MMORPG alone, I totally agree with you (

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I don’t find it hard, only won’t play vs cheaters and exploiters )

Maybe you would find it hard, but that’s understandable.

I am not sure you know what cheating and exploiting means. Since premades are none of the two.

Well, there are many options for a comfortable game. For example, you can become a leader and defeat randoms with great efficiency. Or does this not interest you either?
True, hundreds of players will hate you for this, but it’s okay, you can always tell them “you can do the same”.

Dude can’t differentiate between pre-made & Qsync.
Dude thinks scientific research doesn’t apply to him, unless it names him personally.
Dude doesn’t believe Qsyncing drives people away from PvP (despite being told by players, Blizzard, academic papers, his own eyes -whilst everyone else watches it happen in real-time).

…of course he has a different definition of cheating/exploiting to the rest of the forum (EU & US) whilst simultaneously trying to justify a 99% win rate by queueing with multiple groups.
Admitting that exploiting the queue system to gain an unfair advantage is ‘cheating’ would collapse his reality.

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Both the same. We went through this already, but I realized by that point that a lot of premade haters and also some enjoyers have a selective memory, when it suits their narrative.

I rest my case.

Typing ‘they’re the same’ doesn’t make them the same.
Believing they’re the same, doesn’t make them the same.
Definitionally, they’re different.
How the community feels about them, is different.

I appreciate it’s probably more conventient for you to redefine things to fit your narrative. But doesn’t make it true.

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Same purpose. Same outcome. Same modus operandi. Yeah, it does.

Purpose of Qsync - to provide the enemy with no win condition
Purpose of Pre-made - playing with up to 5 people.

Outcome of Qsync - guaranteed win
Outcome of Pre-made - uncertain. Depends on quality of the pre-made & strength of your own team (not all premades are created equal).

Qsync - bypasses Blizz restrictions to bring a larger group than 5.
Pre-made - doesn’t.

…want to have another crack at conflating the 2?

Just ignore him, he’s either trolling or heavily delusional.

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Same for 5-man with meta classes.

Wrong, “uncertain” only vs another 5-man or sync, which they usually dodge.

No, they don’t. That is impossible. They just queue 2 groups as clearly allowed by gamerules, otherwise Blizz would have made it impossible for 2 groups to end up in the same BG.