Hi guys,
mainly pve player with maybe like 1.6k arena exp on a healer - a noob pvp player pretty much.
Wanted to jump into some pvp as healer - havent done it much this or last season but since pve is fairly boring - thought why not.
Solo shuffle seemed like a good place to start so got to app 520 ilvl and got into action.
I will say that expirience is just terrible for a new healer - is there some other place to start pvp, not solu shuffle? Few issues:
Why is my starting MMR like 1.7k - on a new class, new healer - just learning to play it - why isnt it 0 so it will raise together with my skills on given class. The way it is now Iām just getting owned pretty much and having issues winning any round.
Toxicity - Itās probably related to above point but Ive played just about 3 full games, won just a few rounds - but got called all kinds of names, got screamed at and had to put on ignore like 6 poeple probably. Great into to pvp for new ppl i guess.
Pvp in wow is quite complicated with so mamny classes, specs, abilities - how should one learn it if right away beign put in 1.7k mmr lobbies?
Or should I just keep loosing, ignore all the screams and namecalling, try to improve and let me MMR drop to some lowerish level where i can play vs also new ppl learning ?
Or is there some healthier way of getting into pvp?
Iād recommend either playing the blitz to get a generel feel for it, or grab a friend for some 2s. You can also grab a random from LFG but they might be just as toxic as your shuffle experience.
Itās a lot easier in 2s (until unhealable dampening). So you have more time to get a feel of the game.
I havenāt really gotten much toxicity from people in LFG, they just leave after you lose a game, lol. Itās like a revolving door. Youāll just constantly look for new people because so many people play until you lose and then leave.
2v2 probably. Itās very slow paced and good to get into a new class. Once you figured out your class rotation and some basic understanding for arenas you can get into 3v3 or shuffle which are faster paced.
Also ignore the flaming, especially people at low rating are just angry at the fact that theyare low rated and are trying to blame someone else for them being stuck on that rating
I agree with Draetwo, go for 2s.
Slower and easier.
As for toxic players, learn to enjoy it.
Rejoice in the fact that your mere existence causes seizures to these unhinged people, and realize: āhey, thatās hilarious actuallyā
Their is no such thing as 0 mmr, people start at 1500 by default, at 1600-1700 with very soft mmr reset for this season. If you constantly play with 20% winrate you will eventually be placed to 1200 mmr but not less.
Tldr you were placed at the most beginner-friendly mmr, so if itās overwhelming there, you can go 2s as people suggested, and there is also add on that blocks chat in shuffles, itās also helpful for new healer experience
I had a warlock in shuffle, when he was on the enemy team, that killed himself.
He was getting absolutely nuked and teleports away as his resto shamans get out of CC when heās at like 5% and puts a spirit link, he missed the spirit link because of the teleport and the warlock consequently died. Legit teleported right before spirit link, he wouldāve lived if he didnāt port.
Next round I have feared the shaman and heās on the other side of the arena due to running there in the fear. What does the warlock do when heās dying? Does he run towards the shaman? No, he uses his port to go even further away from the shaman and dies. Shaman couldāve linked him and the other DPS if he ran towards him instead of porting.
Then when heās on my team heās gigatilted at the shaman for how ābadā he is. Like, bro, please, you killed yourself twice.
What lock had to do in situation when he/she is 5% and heal sits in cc, trust healer who sits in the middle of map in cc ? Wait a lil bit longer? He/she did last thing what could. Why healer wasnt close to portal?
Most likely both could do better.
These forums are one of the kind :d
The take is, just stop blaming others non stop. If lock is in the team play next to portal, cos lock will use it. From that situation I imagine both dps was nearly dead if had to chase other dps to heal.
Its more blame on second dps then if leaped to other side of the map or smth.
If you port away from your healer when he has the other DPS to keep alive as well, the blame is on you.
Only reason he didnāt kill himself on my team is because I saw him moving to getting into port range and I gripped him away so he couldnāt port. Man was gonna kill himself again but I stopped him from doing so.
Btw if I remember correctly, you were blaming for overlapping def cds at some point also. I seen it happening in AWC. Players communicate with voice and playing for years together and still sh1t happens. Then why to get angry when playing SS, no communication, skill differences ect.
We are all humans ( probably:d )
Blame just ruins your mood, change your mentality. As a healer its hard, I know, we all go trough this stage.
If youāre playing with a holy priest and your HP isnāt moving because ray of hope is on you, why would you ever use divine shield when ray of hope is about to end and heal you fully? Itās a gigathrow. Wasting divine shield for nothing. Same with mages & iceblocks.
Not once have I used immunities when a ray of hope is going to heal me when Iāve been playing a class with immunities.
Iād understand if they use divine shield just as I ray of hope them or something, that wouldnāt bother me. But so many use their immunities just as itās about to end. As if they finally realize theyāre at low hp after like 5 seconds of their hp not moving and then just go āomg im gonna dieā.
Panic mode, tunnel vision, hard to see what is going on with this superb UI.I know what you mean. No bad blood with you or smth.
Often overlapping happens when both use defs with 1-2 second gap.
oh god I can already see where the rest of this is going
because MMR didnāt reset last season and inflation combined with it for shuffle
keep in mind the people you are facing are likely beginner level as well or close to it or hardstuck people
this is also quite understandable
technically if you are the only reason people lost their rounds (which is unlikely if thereās 1700 DPS which tend to lose the games solo most of the time) then they will get mad and need somebody to blame other than themselves
of course if you did lose the games, just keep in mind most of these people waited 20-40 minutes just to get whatever their game was
this is essentially like waiting for Friday to take your wife to dinner but the waiter is a newbie and messes up your order multiple times because he is new and inexperienced while you waited a long time for your food
by not instantly jumping into solo shuffle, obviously. this is why Skirmish, and by extension, 2v2, and battlegrounds exist - to learn your spec in an easier environment where you are less likely to get punished for mistakes
healing rotations are pretty simple for most specs, so it becomes a matter of learning your keybinds / macros and hugging a pillar
yes, as noted above
queue non-rated modes, learn your keybinds and healing rotation and what your talents / spells do
watch a guide on your spec
do some 2v2 to practice
after that you can safely join shuffles and 3v3 where your attention has to be divided amongst 5 other players than yourself
people on low rating are very toxic in shuffle in general as they are bad and donāt understand why a game is lost
but if you understand your spec, the higher mmr, the better, since youāll be healing less-clueless players who can live better on their own without you becoming their mom holding their hand
example:
my prevoker isnāt good by any means, but I had to do the weekly yesterday
first game, 1900 MMR, final score 0-6,completely clueless potatoes, 3 games with a moonkin who never clones and relies on winning with root beam vs gnome holy priest
lost all 3 with moonkin, then I proceed to lose 3 more because the hunter didnāt know what freedom for root beam is and the warrior held W without ever pressing parry
getting whispers by moonkin that Iām the problem
second game, 2200 mmr
most people are pressing their buttons correctly, 3-3, mostly because 2 people had green gear and it was very difficult to play around it
Idk, i have naver blamed anyone. If you are good, you got at least 3 or more. If you are bad, soā¦ Always NEED someone to lose in shuffle. But ppl are rude. Better to blame others rather then yourself.
Once happened about 1-2 weeks ago about 1800 mmr, first round: elem shaman survival hunter (me) + heal.
After a 60-70 % damp we lose. Both healer gone out of mana, I was the killtarget whole game. Shaman wrote a lot of hahahahaha, noob, got this on twitch etc.
I won 5 he 1.
Then whispered back to him: hahahaahhaa.
If you are a healer and you donāt remain near the port, then yes, you are playing bad. The Warlock will be required to port often, it is up to the healer to remain in the vicinity of the port because otherwise yes, the lock will not port near him.
Not being able to port away as Warlock equals loss, if the healer doesnāt understand that and doesnāt position accordingly then itās his fault.
