New M+ is good, but new gearing sucks

[Razgard-draenor]

@Эксплорейшн-howling-fjord

You describe only vault slots, but completely forget about crafting which perfectly serves as a catch-up system for alts. Ofc, you have some of your gear slots locked for set and trinkets, but other slots are perfect for crafted gear.

Yes, it require some crests farm, but it’s achievable for many people and open access to legend 5/6 gear.

Valid point and could be included.

The main reason I did not include is that the crafting system is the same with previous seasons more or less, and since I do a comparison of the changes, I found it to not make a difference.

@Ishayo-tarren-mill

And you had actual dead keys. Like a key that literally asked you to run a dungeon for no reward, then run again.

That was changed in 7.2.5. Only the first seasons had destroyed keystones, and it was pretty easy to replace them (back then there was almost no way to not time a keystone).

@Clawcious-draenor

I will repeat… We almost JUST started the season and you already want to be able to farm the latest gear on alts

The casual players I’ve seen (so anecdotal) that complains about key levels, tend to forget that before they were doing around +15 for KSM, and now because it’s called +5, they wonder why they can’t push +8’s

My point is not that +10s are hard. My point is that it feels a downgrade to run +10s for a weekly instead of getting the myth track from lower dungeons.

I love 10s and how they feel. But they are challenging and a big ask for many players. The fact that those dungeons gatekeep the myth track vault will be a negative in the long run.

I feel that if it was more like previous season where we could get myth 1 out of +7 or +8 and max myth 2 form the vault would be best for the progression of the game.

[Sinaaki-argent-dawn]

@Lilíith-draenor

and then ask yourself - was it worth it ?

Yes, cause i had fun doing it but im special, i know. I actually enjoy m+ and dont regard them as only a loot piñata.

[Livía-aerie-peak (Livía)]

Legion also had more loot in all facets of the game as well as three bonus rolls.

[Lynlia-silvermoon]

@Livía-aerie-peak

well as three bonus rolls.

Oh. You mean the free 89 gold or AP tokens? Ah yes. I miss them greatly indeed.