Hi there im playin usualy m+ and for now 3k around rio. So im lookin for 23+ keys and these +23 keys are rarely found in the list of premade groups. For this reason, I am constantly updating the list in the game and waiting for someone to create a key for a dungeon that I want. For key owners , it’s quite easy for them to create their keys and select their players from the list, but for players, it has the opposite advantage.
if players could apply for any key to the desired dungeon and difficulty level before it was created yet. When key owners created their keys, they could choose their players from this waiting list. This can save waiting players from constantly stopping at a point on the map and pressing the refresh button 100 to 200 times a day.
applications made by players to dungeon challenges should be renewable every 5 minutes, of course, just like the old system, but these applications can be made directly to the dungeon without waiting for the key holder.
for example im looking for bl ranger dps
filter it shaman hunter mage minimum score 2400 list it
or im lookin for +20 VP BH ULD NELT and min key holder score 2400 >> join que and go do what ever you want dont need to refresh list or new apply
if you think it reasonable when you read this, please give a comment or a reaction so that something can change about this.
get ready for the big minds coming to say ‘‘do it with a pre-made group’’
yeah, waitlist is a good suggestion applying for 5 to get an invite and waiting till one goes delist or decline to apply to another group is INSANE.
You’ll be sitting in the queue waiting forever as a DPS instead of having to wait for and applying to keys constantly. The end result is the same regardless of the method.
But it’s not gonna change anything. He’s playing an oversaturated role. Have you seen how many DPS apply to keys? This would change nothing as every DPS would be using this when pugging.
It’s gonna change that OP doesn’t have to search for them all the time. OP isn’t complaining about not getting invited, they’re complaining about constantly having to look for relevant groups to apply to.
And then he’ll be here complaining he’s not getting any invites because then the group leaders have a list bigger than just the ones applying to their key specifically. Like, you’re gonna be absolutely swamped as a group leader.
I don’t think its a bad idea if I have understood it correctly. DPS or any player for that matter wanting to apply to +23 key just simply choose +23 from a drop down and automatically get listed to all available keys - if that is correct.
You would still however be excluded from keys that have a pre set ilvl that you do not meet.
Yea I don’t see why this could not be implemented and I think its a great idea.
Yeah but…I’m guessing people aren’t simply looking for a random +23, they look at the setup in it, the score of the leader etc. etc.
And if you let them filter for all of that (as addons do right now) then you basically get the current LFG with a continuous auto-refresh of the list.
friend i dont say about the “i cant get inv or something” i mean i dont want to click refresh button till i find dungeon what i need.
this like apply ur dungeons and go free you can do another things till get invite . its free time
I just tried listing my key on my priest and I had like 50 dps applying to it within 2 minutes.
That’s with people having to actively apply to it, with a max limit of 5 applications per person that each last 5 minutes if not delisted/declined.
If I list it and then see a list of EVERYONE that wants to do that key, like, how do I even begin to sort out who to pick? It’s potentionally gonna be thousands of DPS and the chance for an individual to get an invite is basically non-existent.
its can be upgradable for key owner . maybe like you can filter min rio rating class spec what ever you need and you can choose on waitlist
im not sure about that system blizzard can be do perfectly i guess then me
i just wanted to little suggest for new ideas
I mean, this would have to stay even with OP’s suggestion. No way we allow players to apply to 6+ keys forever just because it’s automated.
There could also be some kind of notification system where you are alerted if someone lists a key you want, without you having to constantly search and refresh. Seems like this should be within the power of addons already?
But then what’s the point if you can only apply to 5 keys at a time and have to wait up towards 5 minutes for a delist/decline or cancel the application?
It would still result in group leaders being completely swamped with applications even with 5 max applications either way, because they wouldn’t have to manually apply to the key. Like, I already have a hard time picking applicants right now because there’s just an abundance of DPS applying, that are all qualified to do the key, even with them having to apply manually. Then add this system automatically applying too? Like, how are you even supposed to be able to sort people?
I agree it just shifts the player from constantly applying to five groups to sitting listed and forgetting about it. I’m not sure if that is better.
I actually look at the group comps when I apply to keys. I have a weak aura that shows the class colours of other members.
This used to be how queuing for stuff used to work a long time ago. You listed yourself available for various content. It was discontinued as it wasn’t really all that effective.
It will probably be great for those forming groups as the have an even larger selection of meta to choose from. No longer limited purely to those who apply individually.
Eh, I already struggle to pick people when making groups myself even with the current limitations. You’re just getting absolutely swamped with DPS applying to the group and they are almost all qualified enough to do it, lol.
It’s like if you’d offer me like 100 dishes that I like to eat and I can only eat a limited amount of them, say 3 or 4… how do I even begin to pick what to eat…
The point is that you do not have to sit and refresh the list as a part-time job. This was the point the first time you asked and will be the point the next time you ask.
I agree it’s difficult, but do you really think “happened to be refreshing the list at the right moment” is a good filter? The UI’s ability to help us sort through applicants could stand to be improved either way.
Honestly the single worst thing about finding a group is the cap of 5, where people just leave you applying for 5 minutes, and you do nothing except staring at LFG meanwhile. There should be a way to list yourself for a key, while u do something else, and get invited by some leader that wants you in their group
